Moster toned Peace dollar

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    As you know I am more of a technical grader than an Eye Appeal grader. There are areas in the spots that I would call too heavy/thick.
    But, with out a 10X you really can't see the build up. It looks dark but natural.
     
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  3. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yikes
     
  4. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    May grade UNC details environmental damage with what’s going on on the reverse.

    If it ever ended up in my collection I’d sell it. I could never look past the dark splotches.
    Unfortunate because the obverse is very nice.
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Let us have it Cheech.:D
     
  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Peace Dollars don't tend to reach the monster level often (I'm not one that will give it a bump for color score just because most can't reach the levels Morgans do-although some will).

    Here are a few examples (not mine) that I would consider high end for a Peace Dollar (although not sure I'd go monster on them):

    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/498915/1922-Peace-Silver-Dollar-PCGS-MS-66-Toned

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    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/780785/1922-Peace-Silver-Dollar-PCGS-MS-64-Toned

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    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/591423/1922-Peace-Silver-Dollar-PCGS-MS-62-CAC-Green-Toned

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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    @ddddd I see what you are saying I definitely haven't been keeping up with the market lately.
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I think that I might just try to let this soak for a few in acetone just to make sure none of this is PVC. There is some odd green color between the N and E on the reverse.
    Although I have a feeling that it may lighten the coin as a whole.
    Still a little leery of doing anything with the coin.
     
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  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    The market in terms of prices is different than the toning score/designation. I've seen mediocre toned Peace Dollars sell for solid to high premiums. I think your example is mid-high (in the 4 range going by the 1-6 scale and perhaps giving some leeway for it being a Peace Dollar); however, that could be knocked back into the 3 range if the spots are bad enough to make it go details. And I think your coin would sell for a nice premium even raw to someone who appreciates toned Peace Dollars.
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

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  11. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

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    No, fixing this :muted: coin the "right way" is called "coin doctoring." ;) Sending it to a conservation service with instructions to remove the toning and spots from the reverse only, might not cross that line. However, if the reverse is dipped and comes out nice, adding artificial "skin" or color is also coin doctoring. That is something the Conservation Services claim they do not do.
     
  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but the coin is the OP looks like "a better coin through chemistry" to me. It would be a firm pass on my part.
     
  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I may try working on just the reverse, see how it comes out. Thanks

    By the way I picked up another toned Peace dollar today. I need to get some pics.
     
  14. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I can't really tell the nature/composition from the images. When addressing any conservation project I always recommend the Polarity Ladder as a starting place:

    https://www.lincolncentforum.com/fo...0-The-First-Steps-to-Proper-Coin-Conservation

    You first have to eliminate the potential of a simple surface residue and this process will address that without damaging the coin. After that, I 100% defer to Insider - he's the in-house expert with silver. Given the advanced stage of the toning (near terminal), I'd be surprised if it could be helped.
     
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