"Caligula's" Sapphire Ring 4 Sale

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Amazing ring. wow.:jawdrop::cool: Thanks for sharing it.
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    It is an awesome ring, though I would question the provenance. I have been fascinated by ancient carved gemstones for some time (hence this thread), and recall seeing pictures of some which had been found in the (drains?) of ancient Roman baths. Maybe that was in Bath, England?
     
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  4. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    She ought to like that one. Not at all distracting, and only took 7 min. to load. :)
     
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  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...truly an artist..:rolleyes::D
     
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  6. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    It's doubtful that such a ring could have been crafted 2000 years ago.
    I am re-reading the article. There is provenance, but then it sort of disappears, and when it reemerges, who's to say it's one of the Marlborough gems? And then to sell for only 750 pounds?
    If there is anyway to age test this thing without damaging it, etc.
     
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  7. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    If that provenance could be validated, I'd add a zero or two to the price but it sounds skeptical to me.
     
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  8. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    I think the claim that it might have belonged to Caligula is quite sensationalist, but one way to test the age non-destructively would be to microscopically analyze how the gem was cut. I'm unsure whether the gold could be tested non-destructively.
     
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  10. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    I am skeptical as well. The hairstyle doesn't look like anything I have seen from the Julio-Claudians. It looks vaguely Antonine, but even there the closest parallel I could see would be Faustina Maior but even there I see some problems. The pearl band? seems to be awkward. Sestertius of Faustina Maior (lifetime issue) 139 A.D. Rv Juno standing left. RIC 1077a 24.80 grms 32 mm faussnrs1.JPG
     
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  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Is it just me or does that ring look horribly uncomfortable? It's way too thick, and would certainly get in teh way. I wouldn't want to wear that ring for any length of time, except, maybe, to impress the ladies
     
  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    It does look unwieldy, at least on that model's hand.
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    People were much smaller in Rome 2000 years ago,
    but a man's ring from then, could fit a woman today, and the model wearing the
    ring doesn't have thick fingers.
    Did they have the tools and technique to cut and carve this stone 2000 years ago?
     
  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Oh yes, they most certainly did. They were masters at it, in fact.

    When they invent time-travel video, I'm going to go on YouTube and watch jewels like this being carved by Roman artisans.
     
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  15. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    It's nice and all but does little for me personally. Aesthetically it's got nothing on the 3,500 year old Pylos Combat Agate which was already ancient when the ring was made. Maybe very ancient if the ring was made in the 1600s.

    800px-Pylos_Combat_Agate.jpg
     
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  16. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Confirmation on the provenance would make the difference between this being a very expensive ancient ring and virtually priceless - IIRC, there are no extant artefacts with a confirmed provenance of belonging to a Roman emperor, only their high ranking officials.
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Thats awesome
     
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