Any collectors of Imperial Russian Coins here??

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Rhino89, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    SiberianMan, thanks for the posts. I always wanted to get more coins from the "third rome", but so far just have some silver "wire money" and a group of about 40 5 kopecks from the mid to late 1700's. I like them, they are huge, and from Catherine the Great.

    Btw, I had an exchange student from Tomsk, small world, huh?
     
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  3. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    Tomsk is a rather nice town. You can see some pictures in my album.
     
  4. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    I know this is late, but I finally got around to taking a pic of my Imperial Russian Coins. I have a bunch of the 1915 variety, here are a few, and generally, several of the dates you see below. Except I only have one prior to 1900.

    What can you tell me about these....(especially the 1861....my book doesn't go that far back). I know these are silver, sorry for the color of the pics, bad lighting....

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  5. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    Cool coins, the 1915's and the 1913 look quite nice. Got any obverse photos?
    The only book I have that goes back to the 1861 is quite old.... way too old. 'A Catalogue of Modern World Coins' by R.S. Yeoman copyright 1964 heh... it doesn't even differentiate between 1859-1881 10 kopek coins, it just lists them all at .40 cents... no grade chart nothing just all .40 cents, heh... so not very helpful I'm afraid.

    You may have this info already but...
    I can tell you that all the ones other than the 1861 are .5000 silver and .0289oz ASW, 5 kopek is also .500 fine and .0144oz ASW.
    According to my 2004 Krause standard catalogue of world coins the 1908 5 kopek is a bit rare, with a mintage of only 400,000 compared to millions for most the others around that date.
    Wish I could help on the 1861. Great looking coins though. I'd love to see the ovbverse.

    I took a few more good edge shots of my 1898 Rouble.
     

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  6. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    This 10-kopeks coin (1861) minted in St. Petersburg. Silver .750, weight - 2,0732 g. Coins of this type minted during 1860-1866.
     
  7. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    I get a pic of the obverse later on....
     
  8. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    The first pic is the 1861, the 2nd is one of the 1915 coins.

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  9. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    The 1861 silver coins if I am not mistaken were not struck in St. Petersburg but in Paris. That explains the missing mintmaster mark on the reverse. Rex, show me a better edge of your ruble coin. It could be struck overseas instead of in St. Petersburg.
     
  10. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    A better edge? you mean the edge lettering? because those are pretty much the best shots I could get.
    What would indicate it being struck elsewere than St. Petersburg?
    If it is the edge you need to see, which part specifically? is it one of the words, or the style of the letters that you are looking for? Let me know and I will try to get a better shot showing what you need to see to tell.
     
  11. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    The mintmaster mark should be something like ( BC ) - it is in the brackets. If you see ( * ) or ( ** ), they were struck overseas in Paris or Brussels. I can't remember which was which though.
     
  12. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    As I know, a 10-kopeks coins (1861) minted in a 3 types: without mint mark and with the 2 different mint mark (ФБ & МИ). All of these types minted in St. Petersburg (Krause, Y# 20.1 & 20.2).
     
  13. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    I'll have to disagree with you Siberian Man. If you have Uzdenikov's book and if you read the section of foreign mint, Paris mint did strike some coins in 1861 for Russia. For example: http://www.library.yale.edu/slavic/coins/html/alexander2.html and http://coincircuit.com/Coin_Auction...lized&class=Coin&sale_id=1486&start_print=200

    Also if you happen to have 1916 silver kopeks, check if you happen to have coins that have no mintmasters. Those coins were struck in Osaka mint, Japan which is really strange if you consider the relationship between Russia and Japan never to be in good terms. Those should at least be worth more than your average silver coins.
     
  14. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    Well I looked at the edge closely... No *'s anywhere on the edge lettering, however there is an A then a period "(A." then what looks like the Greek numeral for three, which resembles an upside-down "L", in parenthesis. Is that the mintmaster mark you speak of in the parenthesis?
     
  15. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Yes, it's AG or ( АГ ) as you might have seen.
     
  16. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    Yes. It specifically looks like this ( А.Г ) with only one period between the two letters. So that is for St. Petersburg then, right?
    I really like this 1898 rouble of mine, even though it isn't a high grade specimen, or very rare. I got it 5+ years ago for less than the melt price would be at today's silver prices, and I bought it because I liked it. It was my first Russian Imperial coin with a portrait. I had at the time(and still have) only an 1899 10 kopek in very low grade and an okay 1913 10 kopeck, both of which I found in the "5x coins for a dollar bin" at my local coin shop, along with some late 1800s Russian Imperial bronzes... so it was nice to add a decent silver Rouble with a Portrait of Nicholas II to my collection.
     
  17. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Prices of Russian coins were quite cheap 5 or so years ago. Prices have gone way out of proportions until the last 2 years when prices have finally started to stabilize if not fall. The most important thing however is to enjoy what you collect and appreciate what you have.

    While we are on the topic of Nicholas II coins, here are some of the more interesting coins:

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    This one was scanned but it turned out to be too dark. It's toned quite black though.

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    Hope you enjoyed it.
     
  18. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    Indeed, the important thing is to enjoy what you collect, I agree entirely.

    That first coin you posted is beautiful, I have never seen that type.... the titles on the obverse look longer, although it could just be the way they are struck around the portrait.
    I have a question for you, the titles on my Rouble's obverse, do you know what the English translation of the Cyrillic writting on the obv is? and are the titles on my 1898 Rouble different than the titles on the first rouble you posted in your last post?
     
  19. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Siberian Man can give a better translation of what it means. It's somewhere along the line of "God bless Emperor Nicholas II and the whole of Russia". The texts are exactly the same but there's an additional line on the 1896 coin. The 1896 ruble is actually a commemorative ruble to commemorative Nicholas II's coronation in Moscow. That's the extra text that you can see at the bottom. Mintage of around 190,000 or so.
     
  20. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    Okay thanks. Nice... that is quite a low mintage. Beautiful coin, I love the way the titles go full circle around the portrait, and the reverse design is great.
     
  21. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Can anyone help me out on the rarity/value of my 1861? Thanks.
     
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