2009 Lincoln Cabin Penny Error?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by mcarney1173, May 24, 2009.

  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I see nothing Mike Diamond says that disagrees with the Heritage/PCGS definition. However, they both disagree with Conder101's statements.
     
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  3. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Well like I said it's a matter of opinion and everybody has a right to there opinions.

    Now if I was selling on ebay, and I had a BIE coin I would refer it as an error without trying to take somebody for a ride.

    I would say it wouldn;t be considered fraud , because of different opinions on the subject.

    I would feel more comfortable with the situation on ebay if i was to sell without feeling guilty of ripping somebody off using that terminology.

    JCFormerly Jazzcoins Joe Thanks
     
  4. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I think to early to rule out a die crack as a variety.the crack maybe so consistent in the log cabin series it may become a die variety. only time will tell,as most rolls are not going to be open till a major error is found and then still some collectors won't open them at all.
    this my opinion that about 1/3 will not be open till the 150th anniversary
     
  5. Zzyzzyth

    Zzyzzyth Junior Member

    So what do you think about this 60 Small date?

    Pretty or no? I think if quality control is doing their job then they wouldn't let stuff like this get out the door and should be considered a mint error. If this were your shift, would you let it roll (so to speak)?
     

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  6. DavidF NYC

    DavidF NYC Cherry Picker

    I'm not a big fan of those who consider Die Cracks valuable "errors." And the whole Error vs Variety boils down to what was on the actual Die, and what was a mishap during the minting process. The fact that Die-cracks fall into a category vaguely described as an error only enhances the value to the extent others are willing to pay a premium for such a coin.

    Obviously other feel differently as the whole concept of VAMs is predicated on creating "varieties" out of errors.
    Varieties are Double Dies, Over-punched and Re-punched Dates and Mint Marks, and other deliberate alteration to the dies. Some error Varieties include the variations of overpolished dies which obliterated features on the die i.e. the numerous "No FG" varieties of Kennedy Half Dollars which the designers initials were remove and the 1937D 3 Legged Buffalo nickel.

    As with the value of anything, it is what someone is willing to pay. You can probably get a few bucks from someone for that on Ebay
     
  7. wagair2

    wagair2 Junior Member

    I have a 2009-S log cabin cent that also has a die crack. Posted is a listing from smyrnacoin.com. Hopefully this will help.

    ARE! 2009-S "Log Cabin" Cent with Die Crack ERROR - NG
    NGC_09CENT_LOG_ERROR: RARE! 2009-S "Log Cabin" Cent with Die Crack ERROR - NG​
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    [​IMG] Order NOW..ONLY 1 Coin available! 2009-S Proof Bronze Cent
    Birth & Childhood Design
    NGC certified Mint Error PF 69 RD
    Obverse Die Crack @ 1:00




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  8. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    The mint considers cracks as normal. Vam uses them as markers.
     
  9. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    I can't believe this thread was resurrected...just start a new thread...
     
  10. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    That the 1st Ngc Lincoln 100 av coin with detail a Proof coin with a die crack is a mint. ck with you Google,Proof coin are made not to die crack there made specially for the Collector's and inspected not have any blemished coin in your Proof set :kewl:
     
  11. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Over the years the hobby (business) has changed dramatically. Errors/varieties have even gone so far as to include a possible doubling of Lincoln's legs in the Memorial. The only way to see that is 10,000 x loupe. OK, so the die cracked and minted some coins showing that crack. But how many ? Did it last for 50,000 or 50 more coins with that uniqueness ? What if it was the only one ? A broken die must be replaced at some point. Next year might bring a demand for that particular coin unmatched by others of the series. It is likely considered worthless by many, but I will give you $1 for it. If you had 50,000 of these to sell, then it wouldn't be "worthless" at all. Any endeavor that gives a 100 to 1 return is worthwhile. Besides, I like the cracked die ones. It may not be considered an "error" but it was certainly a "mistake" coin. IMHO
     
  12. rose bazzan

    rose bazzan New Member

    What if there is a severe crack on the back of the penny forcing almost an inner ridge on the left starting at the cross line at the base of the cabin and running up through part of the word, states and the ED in United seems slightly different in typeset as well. What mite this be considered?
     
  13. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Resurrected again.

    Rose, if you have a picture, start a new thread. I'm sure you will get the help you need.
     
  14. John Boutwell

    John Boutwell New Member

    Hi everybody
    I found a 2009 log cabin with a indented line across the right ear. is this a error or a cracked die or what?I can't get a good picture of it. sorry
    but it's a definite mark across the middle of the ear it makes the ear look like it's two pieces instead of one?
    don't even know how to put a photo on here so you can see it?
     
  15. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If you want more than guesses at best, you're going to need to post clear photos. The "upload a file" button below the space where you write your post will allow you to do so.
     
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