1844 Counterfeit Cent

I laughed when I saw the OP's coin. The date was comical.

The above fake is much better, IMO. Again, the date is telling. The numerals are very uniform on a genuine one. The 8 is oversized, relative to the 4, on this fake.

Of course it's one thing to see a known fake and find the flaws. It's quite another when you have no suspicions and overlook them.

Edited to show a real one.
Lance.

 

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Shh... lets not give them any ideas

 

scary.

Thanks for the info

 

how is the rotation on these fakes ???

 

great thread all. This thread focuses on 1841's and I know 1841 is one of the lowest mintage Braided Hair Large cents. Are the other dates just as prone to fakes?

 

The stars are totally different as is the inside of the rim.

 

The larger Chinese manufacturers offer complete sets of large cents... they'll even sell them to you in a fake Dansco album. The better quality replicas have the proper patina and wear patterns. I've also seen lower quality, and even though they were die struck, they looked freshly minted and obviously fake. And on another note, none were marked "copy".

 

True... but the problem is most novice collectors, especially those not familiar with series, would not recognize such inconsistencies.

 

GDJMSP is right, most people would not know by first appearance. One would hope that anyone looking for one would look for the details, but most would not.

I normally don't collect 19th century coins and would only buy something like this on a lark, so I would likely be fooled if I didn't research it first.

 

Not me, that's for sure. I can picture myself at a flea market plopping down big bucks for that fake. That's the reason I would only buy this series from my local dealer... someone I've known for years and can trust.

 

The thing is we are seeing more and more counterfeits presented for sale in the shop. I would guess that I see 2-4 a week lately.

 

Never, it will never stop as long as they are making a bit of money. I am, however, surprised that they cannot just make it perfect, they have had years and years and years and more years of practice

 

Anyone who collects late dates by variety would be able to tell without much trouble. The date position is the first place to look for attribution, and that 1844 is no where close to the correct font or location.

The 1841 has a mature head instead of a petite head. Again, anyone who really collects late date large cents would spot those in a second. I just hope they stop soon, otherwise I fear it will ruin the hobby.

 

That's not good news. But I bet dealers have always had tis problem just these are getting better.

 

What do you do with these coins after you get them? Do you throw them away or sell them as a replica counter fite piece?

 

He probably keeps them as examples i would guess, unless its stamped copy or replica its still unethical to sell it

 

unethical AND illegal, right?

 

Modern fakes are getting better. I hope i don,t get fooled. Going to buy some large cents for my collection. I don,t
know how much a real 1844 is to buy. But i just like the look of them and the dates are not so important to me.

 

Well obviously I don't buy them as genuine coins. A lot if times people just leave them... Sometimes after I inform them that they are counterfeit and I show them why they will sell them for a few bucks. I have several hundred at the moment... I just keep them to study and show them to folks who have them.