1883 CC Morgan

Picked this one up today (midweek working hours sniper that I am)
I'm kind of excited for it to come in. Photos aren't great but it has serious potential, from an estate sale collection, paid MS61 price. This kind of date, mint, and luster I'll take my chances.
It will be sent off for grading.

 

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Wowza! That's a sweet looking buck!

 

You did great! That’s a beautiful CC coin! Congratulations

 

Dang, that's pretty.

 

It is attractive, but something is not right with the piece. It may be the blurry photos, I don't know, but I did increase the size and still had a waita-minute feeling.

Jack Young wrote about this, I think.
Maybe you can find it, I don't know.

I do know that the majority of these so-called Estate sales are seeded. There used to be brazillions of them in DC in any given week, and Estate myazz....

 

We'll see soon enough, Sunshine.

Seller has a couple of other items with the same potential up for auction. I'm watching. A couple of months ago a guy was liquidating his private collection. He had cracked them out, but had saved the slabs they came out of. They were spectacular but not a good value purchase because of solid documentation. You win some, you lose some.

 

What is with the "Sunshine", Fife?

 

Just a beaming ray of sunshine erry day Otis.

 

Where is @Jack D. Young

 

I'd chance it. Good luck!

 

The images are terrible and the coin may be better in hand, but I always try to attribute a coin 1st when researching it.

Images of this one on the right to the known VAM reverses:



The current CN pieces use a common CC reverse for every date; they are also casts and regularly do not fill out the "O" of "OF":


Good luck with this one Sunshine...

 

I notice the complete lack of detail on the interior of the wings - totally bald. I also note the lack of denticles around OF. I shy away from anyone who touts "estate find" in their listing - literally everything is in someone's estate, so it's meaningless. I hope it works out for you but I'm not getting a warm fuzzy.

 

I just watched one of your interview videos at a coin show with a coin dealer. Good stuff. Apparently some fakes are good enough to fool PCGS.

 

Wasn't exactly an estate find. Seller claims that they were his father's collection. He doesn't have very many coins out there for sale, but most of them are blazers.

 

The photos are horrible. Here is another photo of the reverse. Jack pointed out the O in of was not filled in. It is. Also, the details of the wings appear in this photo. The denticles appear weak as discussed but they are there.

 

Bad pictures from guys who are "selling their grandpa's coins" is often a bad sign. I don't like the luster on that piece at all. It's between frosty, which is often seen seen on these coins and P-L which infrequently seen, and highly prized. This one is just shiny, and the shine does not look right.

 

What would you say about this coin? I'm not sure how this one didn't get a PL designation?

 

You have to remember thet early S mint dies all had a pl look to them. They are graded with different standards then other date MM combos.

 

It probably does not have enough contrast between the devices and the fields.

I have very little with business strike PL coin. I have far more interest in Proof coins. There the "Cameo" description is very inconsistently applied in my opinion.

This Proof Morgan did not get a Cameo.



This 1869 Proof Seated Dollar was given a Cameo.



This 1862 Proof Seated Dollar did not get a Cameo.

 

So you have gone from the 1883-CC to an 1880-S; did you take all the images? The NGC slabbed images are pretty good, the 2nd reverse shot of the CC is still too blurry to actually attribute...