Which way is the dolphin swimming?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by rrdenarius, May 10, 2024.

  1. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    Which way is the dolphin swimming in these cast bronze coins? You get a different answer if you align the casting sprews or the lettering (velaθri, Etruscan for Volaterrae). The top 2 are dupondii (2 asses). The bottom 2 are asses. (At 3 asses per day the 4 coins are 2 days pay for a Roman soldier.) Note the position of θRI on the left and right coins where θ looks like an O.
    The casting sprews line up on the top left and lower right. They do not on the other coins.
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    It is fun to hold big coins. I call this one a 4 finger coin.
     
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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    What is the bottom one? Imagine lugging that around in your pocket all day!
     
  4. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    The bottom one is:
    Anonymous aes grave As Luceria mint, Libral Series.
    Obv - Head of Minerva facing slightly right, wearing triple crested helmet
    Rev - ROMA, bull advancing right, vertical caduceus above.
    Crawford 37/1c. Sydenham 139. Vecchi 72. HN Italy 331. Thurlow/Vecchi 43a.
    Extremely rare; Mint State (seller's words). Full weight, with complete designs on both sides. Exhibiting a mix of earthy tones from deep green to burgundy. Incredible high relief on both sides.
    I saw a coin from the same series at the NYINC. It was impressive.... until I saw the one in Dallas.
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  5. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    I know who bought the Minerva Bull in Heritage, and who underbid the one in Triton.
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I want one of those.
    Marvelous RR.
     
  7. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    I should have looked in a book or two before posting. There are 3 series of Volaterrae cast coins. Haeberlin and Vecchi put the O in the top left spot, about 11, for all 3 series. Garrucci, Sydenham, Marchi & others rotate the dolphin series 45 degrees. Vecchi follows Haeberlin's lead in Italian Cast Coinage, 2013.
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    Aes Grave, EJ Haeberlin, 1910

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    Le Monete Dell' Italia Antica, P R Garrucci, 1885

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    Aes Grave, E A Sydenham, 1926

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    L'Aes Grave Del Museo Kircheriano, G Marchi, 1839

    As my first bosses daughter said: "that's more than I wanted to know about penguins."
     
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