2017 P 5C obv rev Diagonal Lines

Discussion in 'Coin Roll Hunting' started by Cole Ringer Coins, Apr 27, 2024.

  1. Anyone know how where these lines might have come from? See anything else?
     

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  3. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Roller marks. Stains from before the coin was cut from a sheet of metal
     
  4. Are roller marks considered a mint error? Thanks for your response HM
     
  5. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    While they can be considered errors, you’re not likely to get any premium. I assume you’re into it for 5 cents, keep it as an example
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    No, not considered an error. Some of them can have great eye appeal though.
    Here are a couple that I have kept over the years.
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    This Ike has very minor parallel striations. The strike nearly removed the evidence.
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    Not to be confused with a "Woodie" or improperly mixed alloys.
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  7. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Tell us why Improper Annealing and Incomplete Planchet (Clipped) are errors while roller marks aren’t.
     
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  8. Good question. This happens during the minting process. So are only striking errors attributable mint errors?
     
  9. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    No it does not.
    The roller lines on a coin are made when the metal strips are being flattened to the proper thickness. The coils of metal that coins are made from are not produced at the mint, they are purchased by the mint. Therefore the lines seen on a coin is not a product or done by/at the mint. Just as plating issues on Zinc Cents are not mint errors except with the lame excuse that the mint released them into circulation.
    just like Blanks and Planchets are not really errors.
    Some of these facts can become personal opinions as some one ability to profit from Error Coins is diminished.
     
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  10. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    What about Improperly Annealed nickels? Inquiring minds would like to know
     
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  11. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    And missing clad layers?
    At 5 cents I save some. Wouldn’t give any premium for one
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  12. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    See, you have all ready decided for yourself what is and what is not.
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It’s from rollers before the coin was minted. Not considered a mint error by most collectors but nice to find and add to a collection.
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Answered already.
    As far as the improper annealing that happens during the minting process after the planchets have been punched from the sheets of metal.
     
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  15. So machine doubling, split plate doubling that involves improper annealing, which are striking errors are mint errors, correct.
     
  16. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

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  17. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    I see Roller Marks listed under Rolling Mill Errors
    If it quacks like a duck
     
  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Well, I guess your right Heavy Metal. I have never looked at them that way.
     
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  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Yes, but still worthless doubling. The reason is that no two coins are alike. And Mechanical problems happen often. This is the same category as roller marks. IMO
     
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  20. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Thank you P&G
    I calls em the way I sees em. Often wrong but still in the game
     
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