what is a cuds "classification"?

what is a cud? the way some explained things to me years ago was... error=planchet, variety=die. (that's the short version) so with that said... is a cud a variety? different cuds have different stages (like doubled die varieties) I am trying to fine toon everything I know I am comfortable with. opinions? thank you.

 

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Cuds. Definition: A cud is a die break that involves the rim and at least a little bit of the adjacent field or design. The vast majority of sizable die breaks are cuds. Cuds can assume a wide variety of shapes including ovoid, crescentic, and irregular.

 

This.

 

When you look at the Cuds on the Cuds on Coins website there are Cuds that were created from the same Die. Not really a Variety but classification. IMHO

 

@SchwaVB57 @furryfrog02 I know WHAT a cud is as far as definition. I have found almost 90. (yes I have photos of all) I want to know its "classification" if you were, not the definition. did you happen to read the WHOLE post? did I ask the question wrong? it made sense in my head :-(

 

It's an error. Is that what you're asking?

 

right, created from the same die, but different stages (sizes). like doubled dies. am I over thinking it?

 

yes it is lol. that's exactly what I wanted to know. probably not a big deal, but I enjoy the extra learning. the more you learn, the more you share

 

Yes.. Forget about Doubled Die.. That's an entire different issue. It's not damage to the die nor do they have stages.

On a damaged die it starts as a small break and can grow until the mint employee notices and replaces the die.. Doubled die dies do not have stages. Each one is unique.

 

I read your post. I am not an expert on cuds. I posted the site and definition for the many new members that use the term CUD on this site incorrectly. Sorry I added information you already were aware existed.

 

Like Frog said, it's an error. ~ Chris

 

Maybe he is thinking of "die state".......EDS, MDS & LDS. ~ Chris

 

Not sure what you are getting at but this is a Cud.

 

1960 D LMC 001 has stage a and b. 002 has stage a,b, and c. im confused. :-( http://doubleddie.com/572234.html

 

@cpm9ball that might be it, but Wexler refers to them as "stages". he refers to things as stage A stage B stage C etc. see the 60 D LMC link above. this may be where my confusion is?

 

@Collecting Nut I have found almost 90.

 

Yes, a cud appears as the die ages. It will start as a break, and then evolve to a cud. Usually, the appearance of a new crack, break, or cud will be labelled as a new die stage. "Die State" and "Die Stage" mean the same thing, and are used interchangeably by different authors.

 

sometimes people read a title, and answer based that, or the first sentence, I just wanted to be sure that was not the case. I was not trying to be rude if it came off that way. not my intention, and I apologize if it did. I appreciate your help, and I am sure others do to. thank you.

 

You have some nice ones there.

 

thank you for clarifying that.