Vintage 20th Century Type Set ( Capitol CS-80 )

Hi,

I promised when I made my "Intro" that I would post some photos and ask questions about coin collecting in general and about a few coins I've had for years.

Well, here's the first one: Should I keep this 20th Century Type Set ( Capitol CS-80 ) intact as I have for over 30 years - it was a gift from my wife's grandfather. Case is kinda' sad, sorta' loose, has a crack on lower back middle 1" long. A few scratches, but coins ( thank goodness ) and cardboard insert are fine. Some coins will fall out the front and back if the edges are not kept tight.

Is there any "Vintage" value to it? I have searched all over for one like it - it has 28 coins in all. Is it possible to get a newer Plastic frame for it from Capitol to utilize the original insert.

I don't think there are any coins of great value here - a few BU, some UNC, mostly Fine and VF - the majority look like most of the coins you all keep showing off. Yes, I have been studying… just for months now. I wanted to learn something too.

Would I be better to purchase a newer more appropriate holder that will contain ALL of the 20th Century types?

Thanks,
Mike ( my Indian name is "Talks with Long Wind" )

 

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I don't believe there is much vintage value to it. Your own story makes it more valuable to your own children or grandchildren. A dealer certainly isn't likely to pay more for that older holder vs. just the coins. A search on Ebay might turn up very similar looking sets in similar holders.

You might be able to get new plastic or glass. Maybe try a local frame shop or Michael's or Aaron Brothers store and get a quote from them, for a double sided glass enclosure.

Me, I would be tempted to leave it as is. Maybe find some clamps or tiny vice-grips to keep it together. The coins are not of great value. Part of the charm is the provenance and the old holder. If I were short on storage space and display space, one option is to move the coins to an album and toss the holder.

 

I beleive a local plastic shop could easily make a new fream for that. (Here it would be TAP plastics). You could also contact Capital and see if they could come up with something.

If it were me I would get a Dansco Album for 20th century coins. It much more sturdy and looks nice in a book shelf. There are other companys who make quaility albums as well.

 

Thanks Red, Crusty...

You both echo the same thoughts I had. I will investigate further and try to accomplish all of them: keep insert intact, look for a NOS frame or a newer one. Also try to find a framing shop to treat it like art work. Which it is... right??

Doesn't the SBA belong in the 'true' 20th Cen. set, but not the Sac. Are there any other type coins minted before the turn of the century that s/b included? I was thinking of a 'companion' holder framed the same.

ps: Since I took the top off for the pic - I now see some of the coins have slight greening. My old coin stash's slime was originally thought to be limited to 2 or 3 PVC flips. GD____ mentioned acetone in another post about a damaged coin that has green.

How long should it soak? I dread reducing these humble coins to junk with the godforsaken "THAT'S BEEN CLEANED" attribute. I worry about the orig. sheen and toning.

Mike

 

Acetone is not considered cleaning and will only remove organic material such as PVC, glue, paint etc... and should not hurt the coins. Some say it has a negative affect on copper, that I am not sure of but for the other coins you should be OK.

Just make sure you rinse the coin in distilled water afterwards and don't get any acetone on your hands wear gloves.

 

Can't say about acetone, but I would keep the set together just like that and put it in a dansco album as mentioned. Just my humble opinion.

 

Dansco don't make albums for the 20th's unfortunatly, just Whitman and Littleton


stainless

 

Wow, that brings back memories. That was one of the first sets I ever began to build. I was young, so the set was complete except the Peace and Morgan, they were too expensive for a 10 year old.

 

Glad I could bring back a few - I was going to say in the OP, "for you older collectors out there..." but, then again, it's not THAT old.

While I did not 'collect' it, I have read 2 books now on coins and own 4 older 60's and 70's coin books that I used to study these and other coins in my forgotten vintage stuff box. Studying what's behind the coin is more fun than looking at it. OK, just as fun...

Do you know what other 20th Cen. Types could go into another frame to accompany the 28 pc.?

Mike

 

Hi folks - I'm new here but not to collecting - US types for about 40 years. This is an interesting subject. If it were NOT for the sentimental value of the holder, I'd toss it and put the coins in an album - Dansco & Whitman both have pretty good ones and are available from any number of places on ebay at discount. If the sentimental value of the holder is the overriding factor, I'd make some arrangement for getting it repaired and keeping it. Seems the first choice has to be whether the sentimental value of the holder makes it worth keeping it. Also, I'm trying to find a thread on here about defining a type set - seems the album/holder makers have no standard. Ted, Georgia Cracker.

 

georgia:
Welcome to the forum!

 

Glancing at your type set - you could add these to your set

The first five statehood quarters
Susan B Anthony Dollar
Zinc composite Lincoln Cent
Silver Eagle ?

 

Now that's an old Capital holder. I have my 20th C Type in the 3 layer Capital holder, been there for a couple decades. I think the holder you have uses the standard Capital Plastics plastic screw together pins. If you need new ones they can be purchased from Capital or any of their dealers, such as: http://www.jakesmp.com/CSD_Capital_Plastics/000_Capital_M.html The albums for coin storage is also popular with many.

A new holder/album would allow you to add the types that came out late in the Century as well.

 

Dansco does not carry a 20th century type set album. Mot that I have ever been able to find. Yhey have a type set but not a 20th century.

 

Just to let you know if you go with the Whitman be prepared to get more coins to fill it. Lincoln, Buffalo, SLQ,Washington, kennedys, Ikes all have more varieties then what your current holder has.

 

Oh, you must mean twentieth century ONLY? The Dansco 7070 does cover nearly all the 1900s, except statehood quarters; no 18th or 21st century which is part of my complain about their album. They do have a new page 6 which includes the three bicentenniel reverses and a "single speciman" statehood quarter.

 

Thought you all had forgotten...

PennyGuy, going on 35 years for this one. Do you have a pic of your "3 layer" holder and yes, I do need 2 or 3 new "screw-together" pins - Thanks. I had them all out for the photo and straightening. The plastic frame is sad, but inside is mint. These coins are Art!!

georgiacracker, yeah, the sentimental thing and the adding - just not sure. Was considering a new frame as was suggested earlier. Or with an additional smaller frame with the "xtras". But I would like to add just what "should" be there considering the "context of the existing coins.
And good luck on that finding a 20th Cen. type set ( non gold ) consensus here at CT...

justafarmer - I was thinking at first that just 1 of the state quarters ( maybe the Conn. or Ver., earliest "join" date ) would do. You think ALL five? Someone even suggested the first 10 - don't remember where I read it.
The Zinc composite cent - does that really fit with the Wartime and Memorial? I think it might - I don't remember it being suggested?
SBA and Sacajawea both came out before 2000 ( or 2001 ), right?
Geeez... I gotta get Silver eagles too?

fishaddicit ( or is it addict? ) - Can you elaborate on the "Buffalo, SLQ,Washington, kennedys, Ikes" varieties that you mentioned...
I have seen so many holders and books and there are so many varieties of just ways to present them. No consensus at all on what s/b in a type set - I forget, something like 23 to 123.

Now that's what I wanted to hear - Thank you all for the suggestions,


Mike

 

The beauty of a type set is it can be whatever you want it to be.

sixsix, PM coming to you

The link in my previous post will take you to Jakes, there you can find their Capital Plastics catalog for info on the 3 layer holders.

 

Ok SIXSIX here we go with the complete Whitman list to fill book:

I CENTS
a.)Indian Head
b.) Lincoln
1. 1909 VDB
2. 1909-1958
3. 1943
4. 1959-1982
5. 1982-date
II FIVE CENT PIECES
a.)Liberty Head
b.)Buffalo
1. 1913 Type I (five cents) on mound
2. 1913-1938 Type II
c.)Jefferson
1. 1938-1965 (without engravers int.)
2. 1942-1945 silver alloy
3. 1966-date (engravers int. "FS" added)
III DIMES
a.)Barber
b.)Mercury
c.)Roosevelt
1. 1946-1964 silver
2. 1965-date
IV QUARTER DOLLAR
a.)Barber
b.)Liberty Standing
1. 1916-1917 Type I no stars under eagle
2.1917-1930 Type II three stars under eagle
c.)Washington
1. 1932-1964 silver
2. 1976 copper-nickel clad
3. 1976 silver clad
4. 1965-1998
5. 1999-date Statehood(DE,PA,NJ,GA,CT,MA,MD,SC,NH,VA)
V HALF DOLLAR
a.)Barber
b.)Liberty Walking
c.)Franklin
d.)Kennedy
1.1964 silver
2.1965-1970 silver clad
3.1976 copper-nickel clad
4.1976 silver clad
5.1971-date
VI DOLLARS
a.)Morgan
b.)Peace
c.)Eisenhower
1.1971-1974 silver clad
2.1976 Type I bold letters on reverse
3.1976 Type II thin letters on reverse
4.1976 silver clad
5.1971-1978
d.)Susan B. Anthony
e.)Sacagawea


Total of 50 coins. I just finished mine not long ago. Good luck if you decide on it. It isn't really not that expensive either.

 

I just read my own post...glad I'm not a teacher..my grammar is terrible.:whistle: