Victoria crown real or not real?

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  1. steelworker

    steelworker New Member

    So I've been digging into my secret stash of coins and came across this Victoria crown. At first I was like ok this one is good but after looking at it harder my alarm bells are ringing because man this coin looks new. The more I look at it the harder it is for me to believe this coin has been around for over 100 years and still looks like this. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to tell? My scale said it weighs 28.4 and krause says it should weigh 28.276 but my scale might be rounding up a 1/10th of a gram so I'm a little stumped. Can you guys tell me what you think, thanks. DSC_0359[1].jpg DSC_0358[1].jpg DSC_0356[1].jpg
     
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  3. steelworker

    steelworker New Member

    So I've been digging into my secret stash of coins and came across this Victoria crown. At first I was like ok this one is good but after looking at it harder my alarm bells are ringing because man this coin looks new. The more I look at it the harder it is for me to believe this coin has been around for over 100 years and still looks like this. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to tell? My scale said it weighs 28.4 and krause says it should weigh 28.276 but my scale might be rounding up a 1/10th of a gram so I'm a little stumped. Can you guys tell me what you think, thanks. View attachment 383455 View attachment 383456 View attachment 383459
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Just off hand I would say real. Unfortunately it is been polished.
     
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  5. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    first it has the look of a coin that has been cleaned, or processed
     
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  6. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    the over scratched surface and the over polishing give it away use a magnet to see if it sticks
     
  7. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    first it has the look of a coin that has been cleaned, or processed

    In the world of coin collecting you have to remember one thing , "research is key, detecting counterfeits a must, and education is a must"

    kaosleeroy108

    The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    no more collecting , sorry children are more important but I will get my diploma and start the hobby center..
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    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center
    the over scratched surface and the over polishing give it away use a magnet to see if it sticks
     
  8. steelworker

    steelworker New Member

    OK just tried a fridge magnet on it and it didn't stick. Also tried the magnet on other known real silver coins and those didn't stick either so I'm guessing a fake one would've stuck? My magnet is kinda cheesy so I'm not sure if it was the best for the job though. So what do ya think, its a real coin that has been cleaned? And what would one say it was worth if it is a real coin that has been cleaned?
     
  9. steelworker

    steelworker New Member

    OK just tried a fridge magnet on it and it didn't stick. Also tried the magnet on other known real silver coins and those didn't stick either so I'm guessing a fake one would've stuck? My magnet is kinda cheesy so I'm not sure if it was the best for the job though. So what do ya think, its a real coin that has been cleaned? And what would one say it was worth if it is a real coin that has been cleaned? And it looks like I accidentally posted this thread twice and I apologize not too sure how I did that.
     
  10. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    KM# 765 CROWN
    28.2759 g., 0.9250 Silver 0.8409 oz. ASW Ruler: Victoria Obv:
    Bust left wearing small crown and veil Obv. Legend: VICTORIA
    D:G: BRITT: REGINA: F:D: Rev: St. George slaying dragon righ
    Date Mintage F VF XF Unc BU
    1887 173,000 16.50 27.50 75.00 150 —
    1887 Proof 1,084 Value: 850
    1888 132,000 20.00 35.00 100 250 —
    1889 1,807,000 18.00 35.00 80.00 200 —
    189/80 — — — — — —
    1890 998,000 17.50 30.00 100 250 —
    1891 566,000 18.00 35.00 100 250 —
    1892 451,000 20.00 40.00 125 300 —
     
  11. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    Holy Brillo pad... :eek:
     
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  12. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    about 50-60 dollars
     
  13. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    holy brillo pad bat man
     
  14. steelworker

    steelworker New Member

    Don't look at me I didn't brillo pad it, lol.
     
  15. steelworker

    steelworker New Member

    50-60 American, Canadian or British pounds? lol I'm just kidding. What a record screech.
     
  16. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    It looks ok but has been polished.
    It should not weigh more than is stated in the catalog.
    Buy a rare earth magnet, place the coin at 45 degrees and the magnet should slide off slowly, if its fake the magnet will slide off fast.
    See these demo`s



     
  17. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    It looks real, just polished to death
     
  18. steelworker

    steelworker New Member

    Understood about the weight that was the first thing I thought to check for. My scale doesn't weigh down to 3 decimal points so I think the 28.4 that it said was close enough to say it could be real and thanks for that magnet tip, good to know.
     
  19. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    counting the factor its cleaned harshly it american i would have said 80-90 but 20 off for damage
     
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  20. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It looks "new" because it has been heavily polished.
     
  21. steelworker

    steelworker New Member

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