Theft at end of show . . .

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wow some serious coins in that lot ! hopefully graded with numbers! that's bad ju-ju for thief

 

What a dumb-asp(sp?).

 

On his BEST day he has aspire to be a dumb asp (sp?).

 

Oof, looking over the list of stolen coins that's a brutal loss. I wonder if the window was smashed or if the dealer just left the car unlocked while going back inside the show. A very tough lesson to learn if it was the latter...

 

This is becoming a regular occurrence... shouldn't there be a staging area where a dealer can load up at the end of day under some handicap parking under security.
I mean these venues have security right?

 

Just a silly question? Don't they sort of security at these shows? I've never been for these certain reasons.

Just what I was thinking....

 

I'm thinking that some of the larger shows have an area with security for dealers to load and unload but probably not enough room at times.
Dealers need to use the buddy system more to help guard the cars. Many already do but some seem to ignore the risk.

I was at a show a few years ago and the sheriff's department would escort folks to their cars if ask. I thought that was cool but can see how that's not possible at a busy show.

 

These shows need to have visible armed security in these parking lots while these chumps are loading/unloading and there should be premises liability when they don’t. I mean everyone going to these shows knows what’s going on. I wouldn’t bring my entire coin collection to one of these shows without it and neither would any of you. We love to go on and on and on and on about the need for security in our homes, and these are public venues. This dealer picked the wrong show, that’s what he did. He should feel lucky it was only a property crime and not a robbery where he could have got hurt. Look at all the smash and grab today in the stores. And cops are a bad word these days, go figure.

 

I always have a hard time understanding why anybody would leave that kind of value unattended unless you owned an armored car.

 

When I volunteered at the annual coin show my old coin club (Wisconsin Valley CC) hosted I would be outside as dealers loaded their vehicles, keeping an eye out for suspicious activity. As far as I know nothing was stolen.

 

I have never seen security at any of the small local shows I've attended.

 

Be careful out there folks

 

It's as much a public venue as the Fun Show. I'll bet there's a disclaimer of liability in their contracts, if indeed they have contracts.

 

If I were a vendor, it would be a very cold day in Satan's lair that I'd take a booth/table at an event that didn't provide armed security. Obviously the booth rate would include the added charge for this provision. Which I'd gladly pay.

 

In Michigan around here there are a lot of smaller coin shows (rarely with any security) in small venues, at least pre-Covid. I had to check but I think in the past the Allen Park one was in a Veteran's Hall of some type; quite a small building. This theft was in a different and a little bit larger venue which is on a main road within a mile of a couple major freeways.

Tough loss especially reading all the gold coins.
There's tons of pawn shops in the area too.

 

I hope the thief is caught and spends time in prison. And really hope the dealer get his coins back. Thief may be dumb enough to try to sell the coins in their original holders, which will increase the chances of him getting caught and the coins recovered.

All shows need security. Discussion brings up question of whether to have deterrent security or catch security. Deterrent security is the presence of uniformed security personnel such that hopefully, theft does not occur at all. However, there have been thefts at shows with lots of visible security. Disadvantage is that theft-minded folks will move on and commit thefts elsewhere. Folks who deliberately go to coin shows to steal are likely to ply their trade wherever they think they can get away with it.

Catch security uses undercover personnel along with video surveillance, reporting phone numbers, etc. to catch thieves in the act. Advantage is thieves get caught and hopefully sent to prison. Disadvantages are that folks might not feel as safe at shows if there’s no obvious security, and some thieves may elude the undercover security.

A combination of both obvious and undercover security is used at large shows. There are financial and operational limits to how much security can be at shows. But I think it can be improved significantly and economically, especially at smaller shows, with better planning and modern technology. Excellent security won’t prevent thefts from folks who act foolishly though.

Cal

 

I’ll absolutely second that. Been a few years but Ernie does a great job done quite a few shows for him