I've been storing my coins in small ziplock bags from the company Apple. Please tell me they are not made of pvc. If they are, how long do I have to remove them before they start damaging the coins? PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU ARE 13 YEARS OR OLDER. Thank you.
If they are take them out immediately. If they're genuinely food storage bags (Ziploc is an actual trademarked brand name, not the generic name for self-sealing bags) I can pretty much guarantee there's no PVC in them, but if they're bags you got from Apple who knows. At any rate I don't recommend storing coins this way.
I assume you are talking about these, or some sized similarly - https://www.fetpak.com/product_info.php/125-125-apple-bags-card-p-7769?cPath=340_349_354 If so, I can't swear to it but you should be fine regards PVC. That said, there are much better ways to store your coins.
Yes. Those are the bags. From sheer terror, I pulled all the coins out of the bags. I dont see any damage to the pennies. The only proofs that are not in the original packaging are 3 franklin proofs that were in a album, so they were handled before I received them, and since I paid spot for them, I really didnt look at them to closely. I just popped them out of the album as safely as possible and put them into the bags. Since I didnt take a close look at purchase, I cant say what shape they were in. When I pulled them out of the bags, the high points have a "film" on them.The reason behind the bags was I purchased these metal organizing bin rack with plastic bins. I also scratch build and drag race electric and nitro powered remote control cars and wanted a nice set of racks for holding all the tiny screws and parts. I used the bags for storing this items and the bags fit in the bins perfectly. So it was a instant on-hand approach for storing the coins. I beleive pvc damage would be a yellow/green dull tone on the coins, no ?
Few coins that I have I consider to be very, very nice. None are rare with the nicest one, in my opinion, is my 39d wheat the members here feel its in the AU55/58 range. I like the bags because at this moment in time, I dont like hard cases or slabs. It makes the coin "feel cold" to me, if that makes sense. I like to touch my toned coins, and when I want to store it, I put it back in the bag. As Im typing this I'm realizing that I should buy flips.
Clutchy - PVC residue, when it first develops, is all but invisible. That's because when it begins to be released from the plastic it does so in the form of a gas. It is this gas that deposits the residue onto the coins. And rather obviously you can't see a gas. Now once those PVC deposits begin to build up to an appreciable amount that is when they become visible. At first the deposits will be clear,no color. But even though the deposits can't be seen, they can be felt. They will be oily to the touch. A bit later they turn a semi-milky color, then whitish in color. It is only towards the end of the deposit process that they begin to turn green in color. And by then, the damage is usually already done. Later, if allowed to progress, they turn even darker green, and then they begin to dry out. The color can vary widely as the deposits dry, sometimes they will be white, sometimes green, and even sometimes brown, or dark brown. The reason I'm telling you all of this is for your education, it is something you need to know if you are going to collect coins. Now, when it comes to storage - albums, flips, those bags you have, 2x2s, coin tubes, - all of these things have their problems, things that are or can be harmful to coins. There is one and only one method of storage that does not have its drawbacks - hard plastic coin holders. There are many different brands and all of them do the job. I realize you don't like them, but that doesn't change the fact that they are what every collector should use if they wish to protect their coins as best they can. All other products have problems, and some more than others. By all means, it's your choice as to what you use. But you should at least be aware that what you choose to use will more likely than not cause you grief at some point down the line.
Yup, buy PVC free flips. I am just like you, I like to handle my coins anytime I feel like it. So, flips are my choice for coin storage. You know, I just came up with a coin storage idea I wish they had. The downfall to flips is you have to open up the flip to see the reverse. You can cut it in half, but then have no place to write down information about the coin. I wonder if they could make a one sided flip, with a ziploc to hold the coin in but can be opened, with a paper tab on top?
The mint packaging on the sets is not archival in nature. The material itself is non-reactive, but it does have a higher porosity than mylar or other PE,PP plastics, and also is more prone for small cracks from handling or aging. Some will have wonderful results, others not. If you intent to sell them , keep them in such packaging, but if you are only interested in keeping the coins, put them into better..
I have bought coins sent to me in small ziplocks about 2 x 2. Are these what you all are saying ruin the coins?
No, we are not. We are saying though that you should move them to better storage devices when you have a chance. Baggies are conventient for dealers, but are not a great way to store coins for collectors long term.
Why not use something like this with a stick on label near the zipper. Plenty of room with the 2x3, although they come in many sizes. PE, safe. http://www.amazon.com/Ziplock-Type-Clear-Reclosable-Thick/dp/B0002ZOY5A/ref=pd_sbs_ac_3 also with a hanging hole http://www.globalindustrial.com/g/packaging/bags/reclosable/reclosable-clear-poly-bags-hang-hole and less expensive by the 1000. Walmart has these in 100 unit packages in the hobby ~ Beading area. I use them for club auctions, stapled to a n info card. Jim
You have to understand what the problems are or what the downside is with the various storage products. The small ziplocks are just like flips in that they allow the coin to slide around inside the flip or ziplock. That sliding around puts wear on the coins, wear you can see. They also do a poor job of protecting the coins because they are so soft. Objects can scratch the coins right through that soft plastic, and yes it happens. The point being made is that there are better, safer, storage products out there. Products that do not allow the coins to slide around inside thus protecting them from additional or any wear. And they protect the coins from scratches or inadvertent damage because they are hard so other objects can get through the hard plastic to harm the coins. And they protect the coins if you accidentally drop one. Drop a coin while it is in a flip or ziplock and you will almost certainly get a rim ding, or worse, on the coin. Drop it while it is in a hard plastic holder and nothing happens to the coin. The idea of collecting coins is to keep them just as they were when you got them, to protect them from any further damage or wear. And there is only 1 kind of product that can do that for you - the hard plastic holders. That's it, nothing else does it, nothing.
I understand. I have done this with all my unslabbed Morgans. These now reside in the two piece snap together plastic holders that fit conveniently in a sleeve type covered box. Thanks for your input here.
Nice idea, but those are "flappy". I was thinking a stiff holder like a flip cut in half, but with a zipclose at the top. Above that, paper on similar hard plastic. Get those, along with matching sized boxes and pages, and I would be loving it. I should write up a patent........
No. I just found out that pvc is not good on coins. I couldnt find the info on the bags I use (Apple) so to be safe, I pulled all my coins until I have some sort of proof that they are safe.
PVC is PolyVinylChloride and is one of the most used plastics in the world. There are two problems with PVC. Pure PVC is a hard and brittle material (water pipes type stuff) but if a lot of a very high boiling material is infused into it (plasticized) it can become soft and pliable for use in lawn chair webbing and cheap plastic film. The problems with PVC are that the plasticizer chemical can exude out and do bad stuff or that the PVC itself can degrade and give off hydrogen chloride gas. When hydrogen chloride gas mixes with water, we call it hydrochloric acid, not too good for most coins. To check plastic materials to see if they contain PVC, heat up a copper wire as hot as you can get it (butane lighter flame would probably work) and touch the plastic to be tested so that some of it melts and sticks to the copper. Now heat the wire again and watch for a green coloration to the flame that comes from copper chloride that should be formed from the interaction of copper and PVC.