Slave Tags?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by silverdrachm, Aug 21, 2014.

  1. silverdrachm

    silverdrachm Active Member

    I know this is a very controversial subject. I like a lot of coins that have been engraved, such as love tokens. I love how personal they feel. I know slavery was a terrible, I mean just awful and unforgivable thing, but some of the slave tags that I've seen look very ornate.
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    Something like this one above I feel like is too nice to be made for a slave but maybe I am wrong. A lot of the ones that I've seen look to be crudely done, usually just counterstamped, not ornately engraved like these. Here are some more of these more engraved pieces:
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    Im wondering if examples like this are really Slave Tags or something else. If anybody knows anything that would help me feel free to comment your opinions. Thanks
     
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  3. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    Wow... Call me naive, but I didn't even know this sort of thing existed until today but I guess it kind of makes sense.

    I'm also curious if "ladyboy" meant the same thing in 1837 as it does today!
     
  4. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Those very well appear to be reproduction pieces that can be had from eBay at minimal cost except for the many people who try to sell those for hundreds of dollars thinking they are real. Genuine Slave tags that I've seen aren't usually as ornate (Reason why I think these are fantasy slave tags to sell for decoration) and sell for thousands of dollars depending o the condition.
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I agree. These are reproduction/fantasy pieces.
     
  6. silverdrachm

    silverdrachm Active Member

    That makes sense because I saw ones similar going for very cheap. ANd what does fantasy piece mean?
     
  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    That the piece is not reproducing something that actually existed. It's an original creation, or a fantasy.
     
  8. silverdrachm

    silverdrachm Active Member

    Oh okay that makes sense
     
  9. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    In addition, all three "tags" illustrated above appear to have been made with the same lettering punches, despite being widely geographically separated.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

  11. silverdrachm

    silverdrachm Active Member

    Do you guys know any other types of coin/ tokens that would be engraved? I own a lot of love tokens which I really like but after finding this I feel like maybe there are other types of engraved coins/tokens.
     
  12. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    Presentation medals, awarded to a specific individual, are often engraved.
     
  13. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Everyday circulating coins were engraved in the past...and even today on occasion. People would engrave their name, birthdate, where they lived, or anything else that struck their fancy. You also see these on eBay fairly often. Sometimes they're described as counterstamped by those who don't know the difference. I collect counterstamps but not engraved coins or tokens. There's a definite difference.

    Bruce
     
  14. silverdrachm

    silverdrachm Active Member

    I really like how personal they feel. Doing more research I found some hard times tokens and Civil war tokens that also have that person feel to them so I might look into them more.
     
  15. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Almost anything engraved for a person will have that feel to it. Trophies, plaques, jewelry, some souvenirs and time pieces to mention a few. Many are very ornate and collectable.
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Also check these out.

    Post yours.
     
  17. silverdrachm

    silverdrachm Active Member

    I know but I like the idea of some things about the size of coins or a little bigger.
     
  18. silverdrachm

    silverdrachm Active Member

    Post my love tokens?
     
  19. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I can vouch for their being fantasy pieces - the one from Stratford Hall Virginia was Gen'l Robert E. Lee's birthplace - thus a likely fantasy.
     
  20. Argenteus Fossil

    Argenteus Fossil Active Member

    I really can relate to desiring the personal aspect of the engraving. Something in addition to coins/tokens, etc I have found that I really enjoy are letters. I happened across some letters written by Sam Houston to his son. The subject matter of the letter was of no historical significance. He was writing about a new hat he had purchased. I find things like this fascinating and from your posts I think it may be something of interest to you as well?
     
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  21. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Sure, check the thread.
     
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