Sheet VS Regular Notes

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  1. meandyou4ever0

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    Can someone break it down where I can understand what the difference is, that being a sheet note and regular note, I read up on it but I'm not following. Please and Thank You Puzzle_1670628149762.jpg
     
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  4. meandyou4ever0

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  5. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Regular production notes and star notes manufactured for the replacement of damaged production notes are just "Regular" Notes.
    The BEP also sells sheets of notes and star notes to collector. The serial #'s for these notes are recorded. If I cut a sheet of star notes into individual notes to sell, the buyer can tell due to the serial #'s. Sheet type star notes should be in MS or perfect condition because they are not made for circulation. That condition should make them worth more but it does not because they are sheet notes.
    I liken this to; some proof coins are worth less than a high grade production coin.

    This site give production run sizes for the different denomination which can help folk define the value of regular and star note sheets by their serial numbers.
    http://www.uspapermoney.info/serials.pdf
    Hope this helps some.
     
  6. Abramthegreat

    Abramthegreat Well-Known Member

    I was just about to explain it like that @alurid! :arghh::hilarious:
     
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  7. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Your confirmation of my post is just as valuable of a contribution.
    Thanks for it.
     
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  8. Abramthegreat

    Abramthegreat Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I had already started typing too! :hilarious:
     
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  9. Mountain Man

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    I'm always late to the party. :yack:
     
  10. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    This is only partly true.

    There are sheets printed to use as replacement sheets when a whole sheet in a regular production run is rejected. There may only be one sheet replaced in a stack of one hundred, so each strap pack of 100 notes from those 100 sheets, would have one star note. Sometimes there are no sheets replaced, or sometimes it could be a few within the 100 stack. These star notes are rarer because they are fewer and far between and to get consecutive numbers of these notes is even rarer. It is my understanding that only the star sheets left over after the printing of the regular notes, are the ones sold to collectors.

    Then there are regular stars printed where the run of star notes are stacked into one hundred sheets and cut into packs of one hundred consecutive notes, These packs of 100 star notes are to replace strap packs of 100 regular notes that were rejected after they were cut into packs.
     
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  11. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Do you mean to say that something in my post is false?
    Or do you mean to say that there is just more information beyond what I posted?
     
  12. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Yes, there are sheets printed as replacement sheets in production notes. and there are regular production star notes printed for packs. Those printed for packs are considered regular, sheets printed for replancement of rejected sheets, are not regular production, they are sheets. The OP was asking the difference. It has nothing to do with the sheets sold to collectors.
    The mistake made in production of the 2013 star notes where there were duplicated serial numbers, some of the duplicated numbers were regular production packs and some were sheets. Both were not packs, or there would have been 100 matching consecutive serial numbers found, none were found because most were printed as sheets and were cut and dispersed throughout the world as single notes.
     
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  13. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    When you enter your note into the "Star Note Lookup" and it comes back as a regular star, this note was in a 100 pack of consecutive star notes when it left the BEP. they are typically easier to find and are usually not considered rare.

    If the note you entered comes back as a sheet, then that note was an individual note in a pack of regular bills. These are rarer because they are single notes dispensed singly and are typically harder to find. Not all, but most all, rare star notes, were printed as sheets used as replacement for individual sheets in the printing process.
     
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  14. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your time and effort to post this information.
    My understanding has been shifted.
     
  15. meandyou4ever0

    meandyou4ever0 meandyou4ever0

    If I post the results of my bill can you look at it and tell me what i have please? The way it reads makes the results unclear to me. Keep in mind, I am still learning all this.
     
  16. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Sure, I will try and help.
     
  17. meandyou4ever0

    meandyou4ever0 meandyou4ever0

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  18. meandyou4ever0

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    I also have this Screenshot_20221211-215416.png Screenshot_20221211-215430.png Screenshot_20221211-215444.png Puzzle_1670817430404.jpg
     
  19. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    1. First the M in the serial number stands for the 2013 series. Since 1995 notes larger than the $2 note have an additional letter in the serial number (the first letter) which signifies the series year.

    2. The second letter is the Federal Reserve District for which the note was printed. In this case G, which is the Chicago District Bank.

    3. There were 4,480,000 star notes printed for this district (G) in 2013, of those 29% were sheets. These sheets were used to replace the individual damaged sheets pulled out during the printing of regular circulation notes. It is important to note that star notes are only used for replacement after the third printing of the normal currency where the serial numbers are added.

    4. Most all sheet printings are small runs. Your note was printed as a replacement sheet and was part of a small or short run. Even though there 4,480,000 G star notes printed total, your note has a rarity because of the printing run it was in and was a sheet replacement.

    5. Of the 4,480,000 total G replacement stars printed, 71% of them were printed and cut into packs of 100 consecutive numbered star notes. The cutting of the notes is done after the serial numbers are printed and are stacked into 100 sheets. The full packs of 100 regular currency notes that are damaged, miscut, or rejected for some other reason, are replaced with a full pack of 100 star notes these full packs of star notes are called "Regular Printed" stars.

    6. Regular currency notes are cut from 100 sheets that are in stacked in consecutive number before they are cut. If one of those 100 sheets was replaced with a star sheet. Then one of the notes in that stack of 100, will be a star note.
    This in itself makes finding one from this run difficult as the next star note sheet used as a replacement was more than likely in a pack sent to the other side of the country or even world.

    Hope this helps.
     
  20. meandyou4ever0

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    what I'm taking from your answer is, regular currency is printed from stacks of 100 sheets without serial numbers, then stacked into stacks of 100, serial numbers are then added, if any damage/error is done during these processes to any bill on the sheet the entire sheet is removed/destroyed and replaced with a full sheet of star notes which already have serial numbers and then cut into stacks of 100 bills per stack and sent to whatever bank or federal reserve needs them? Or is it an entire sheet of regular currency gets replaced with the one single star note? :banghead: ughhh I am trying to figure this out. The whole "sheet" vs. "regular" ???:mad: upsets me because I am sure it is so simple, my brain isn't comprehending it. I am more of a show me type of person rather than a "read this" type. Hands-on is best for me. I just don't have anyone that knows about this stuff to actually be in the presence of to show and explain.
     
  21. meandyou4ever0

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    right or wrong, I actually have something worth hanging onto do you say?
     
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