Roman Coin on Pawn Stars?

I download my cable tv programs, but just read there was a roman coin featured on pawn stars? Anyone know what/whom it was of?

Hoping it isnt gordian iii, HA!

 

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Ahh I just watched it but cant remember the name. Darn. Rick bought it for $8,500 though. I dont like ancients but I really liked that coin. The expert was able to explain that the coin was minted in the last 24 days of that emperors life before he was murdered based on text that was on the coin...

 

Probably Caligula

 

It was Caligula.

 

Made of silver.

 

They probably know that from a Consulship number or something similar. Btw, anyone want to lay odds the "expert" owned the coin in real life? I refuse to watch the show anymore after hearing about the dealer who owned some rare notes was on as the "expert", and his girlfriend someone "who just happened to find these things in grannies attic, (though slabbed)". Just a bunch of set up lies, and most of the "facts" they have on ancient coins are wrong to boot.

 

we were watching that show and just when the expert was gonna tell them if was real or fake our cable went out. ugh I was pissed off. thank you for posting this thread. so it was real. so it was worth how much $18,000-20,000 and Rick offered half ?

 

that whole show is probably staged. I still like it when they show coins and gold from pirate ships on the show.

 

Lol thats the typical Rick. The coin was valued at 10k+ and he got it for $8,500.

 

I used to watch the show because I thought he was a good businessman. Now I don't watch the show because he just rips people off, whether staged or not.

 

TV or the real world, we are fooling ourselves if we put any stock in the concept of what something is 'worth'. A coin, a house, a car, the work you do for an employer is worth exactly what it will bring when tested with real money. A coin is not 'worth' what the last one was 'worth' but what that one is the next time it sells.

Ancients make this even worse since there are so many variations of condition or minor details. If two rich guys show up at the sale and see a portrait of Athena that reminds them of their mothers, a price could go through the roof. The next day when a technically better coin comes up that reminds them of Phyllis Diller, the result might be a fraction. What is the type 'worth'? Businessmen (coin dealers or pawn brokers) only stay in business by paying less than 'worth' or selling for more. If a coin is 'valued' at $10k, no professional is going to pay anything near that amount unless they already have in mind a buyer who they have some certainty will like the item enough to pay more than it is 'worth'.

I agree the TV show appears to be staged and I can not imagine why anyone with any sense would take a coin 'worth' $10k into a Pawn Shop unless they had to have the money instantly or were afraid that a real coin dealer would recognize that the 'worth' number was ridiculous. If I had any of the coins in question and wanted to sell them, I'd call a couple dealers I know and see if they wanted it or, assuming I could wait to be paid next year when the sale closed, I'd consign it to a big sale where people with too much money would be likely to get into a bidding war over it. I would not take it to someone who has to call in an 'expert who knows everything there is to know about coins' to give an opinion without backing up that opinion with cash.

 

The guy who brought in the coin didnt know the value of the coin. I think thats why he brought it in to the pawn shop. Originally, he was only asking a couple hundred dollars.

 

You don't understand. The whole show is staged. It may not have been the first season, but it is now.

The show's producers were recently at the Long Beach coin show looking for interesting items for people to "bring into the pawn shop".

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the guy who owned the coin was an avid collector or dealer.

Read The Penny Lady's report on the Long Beach show. She wrote that they might have her on the next season of Pawn Stars and I'm pretty sure she was already on the show a couple of years ago!

 

The coin on season 8 episode 70 (In the Doghouse) was a denarius of Caligula with the OB CIVES SERVATOS in wreath reverse. Ordinarily this is one of the cheaper Caligula types because people like the ones with a reverse portrait of another of his family members better than the wreath. However, the coin here had the obverse legend ending COS IIII rather than COS III making it a considerably more rare variation. The price of $8500 only makes sense if the buyer cares a lot about the COS IIII date.

The coin was well struck and interesting style as pointed out by David Vagi wo examined it with a magnifier briefly on camera before pronouncing it genuine. He did not mention the surface porosity or wear. There was wear on the ear that made me wonder if we shouldn't weigh the coin to rule out it being fourree. I did not see a seam in the plating but the texture revealed on the highest points would not allow me to render an opinion without a weight. Since it was purchased, I assume that the coin is already in a slab so it will never be weighed before it is sold. It will be interesting to see if the coin shows up in a big sale in the near future. I would grade it VF 5/5 strike 3/5 surfaces using the NGC examples I have seen. Please post a link here if you see the coin.

The link below shows a Germanicus reverse COS IIII denarius that sold in 2011 for half what Rick paid. It is a better reverse with much better surfaces and good weight. If I had $8500 to spend on a Caligula, I would love to own it at that price (and would enjoy getting back enough change to but a COSIII with the wreath reverse).
http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=977905

 

I wonder how David Vagi was "conveniently" in Vegas.

I would much rather watch what LostDutchman has come into his shop.

 

I know its staged. Im just saying what had happend in the show.

 

Staged? Nonsense. It's called Reality TV for a reason, guys.

 

Hehe

 

I saw the commercial for it but forgot to watch XD. I'm not a fan of pawn, but catch myself watching it, complaining about it, but not changing the channel.

 

Well it was a CNG coin that once sold for $2,600. Found this on another forum.

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/nu...20IIII%20COS%20%95%20IIII-%20%20Joe%20Geranio

Crazy....