red cents/pennies

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Twiggs, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector

    Ive been wondering about this for a while now. I have been grabbing 'red' cents/pennies when I see them. The red color is almost as if they were colored and some are moreso than others. They also tend to be more valuable

    Why are they like that and what cause the 'red' color..is my question
    Should I have a date collection of just reds?
     
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  3. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    If they're more valuable, it's only if the red color is natural. Artificially recoloring a cent coin to restore a red color is usually detectable by experts. The examples I've seen look awful. Lots of experts point out that the original "red" color is really more of an orange color -the color of new copper.
     
  4. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Well Twiggs a red cent is closer in color than a brown coin as it rolled out of the mint. Even in lower MS grades the collectors prize them for the "original" mint coloring.
    In general one might say the older the red coin the more valuable it is.

    I'm a two cent junkie and own but one that would be considered red. They just tone after 140 years or so.

    I guess that's why I appreciate a hard, glossy brown so much. Can't afford the red ones with what I collect.
     
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I agree. Even on my indians I like brown and red-brown, better than red. If you like the natural red cents then collect them. I think it should be what you like to collect.
     
  6. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    to each his own, I actually prefer my older cents in a chocolate brown.
     
  7. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    You ever notice how a few wheats in a few rolls will turn a deep blood red?
     
  8. coinman101

    coinman101 Collector Of All Coins

    Yeah, I have a few like that.
     
  9. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    No doubt on older copper. First the chances of it being original are better and second that's what happens when coins tone.

    I have a complete collection of business strike 2 Cent pieces in unc. A few are RB but when I show them so someone new they LOVE the brown 1871. The 1865 is real nice too (glossy brown).
     
  10. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector

    here's some pics

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    what do you make of these two I got from circulation

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  11. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector


    yeah..I have 2 of those - 1911 and 1926
     
  12. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

  13. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector

    hard to tell from my lousy pics, but they are both deep red as you described Hamman
     
  14. edduns

    edduns Senior Member

    Red
    Term used for a copper coin that still retains 95 percent or more of its original mint bloom or color. PCGS allows only slight mellowing of color for this designation (RD).

    Red-Brown
    A copper coin that has from 5 to 95 percent of its original mint color remaining (RB).

    I prefer all shades of Brown for my collection

    Brown
    The term applied to a copper coin that no longer has the red color of copper. There are many "shades" of brown color – mahogany, chocolate, etc. (abbreviated as BN when used as part of a grade).
     
  15. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector

    thanks Edduns
    btw..love your Lincoln av

    Mr. Lincoln has been a favorite of mine since I was a kid and saw a movie called Mr. Lincoln's Whiskers

    lol
     
  16. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Lol, honestly, looks like they've been dipped in ketchup. Still neat though. :D

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  17. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    I hate coins which arn't fully toned....especially ones with splotchy lustre...
     
  18. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Since pennies (cents) prior to cetain dates are composed of Copper, Tin and Zinc they are actually Bronze and when a plate used to make coins is polished it appears sort of what you see in all new coins, rather yellowish color. However, as with all metals, that stuff called Oxygen attacks the coins almost immediately. As the copper of the coin accumulates Oxygen it becomes Cyprus Oxide which is a reddish color, Cu2O. This is further attacked by humidity and Carbon Dioxide to form the darker brownish color but as this reaction continues it will become Copper Carbonate that famous greenish patina.
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    New one to me. Try cuprous oxide.
     
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