Rarity designations in English Silver Coinage?

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  1. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    Just received the latest (6th) edition of English Silver Coinage and am puzzled by some of the rarity designations. There are R and C usually with a following superscript, R3, C2, etc. I assume that R means rare and C means common, and the larger the number following R means more rare. But does a larger number following C mean more or less common, i.e. is a C2 coin more or less common than a C3 coin? What do C and R mean when there is no superscript? What do N and S mean? Haven't found a key in the book. Maybe I missed it.

    Book has a ton of info, but could use an introductory chapter to explain symbols, references, abbreviations, etc. Glad for any help.

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  3. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

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  4. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    They used to use R, RR and RRR. I guess things have changed in the 21st century.
     
  5. calcol

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    Thanks a lot, Paddy. Very helpful. From further investigation (actually from HawkHybrid on thesilverform), the definitions were in early editions of ESC, but omitted from the newest edition. Here they are:

    R7 - only 1 or 2 examples known
    R6 - 3 - 4 examples known
    R5 - 5 - 10 examples known
    R4 - 11 - 20 examples known
    R3 - Extremely Rare
    R2 - Very Rare
    R - Rare
    S - Scarce
    N - Normal, neither scarce nor common
    C - Common
    C2 - Very Common
    C3 - Extremely Common

    Cal
     
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  6. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Ah yes - the higher "Rare" indices were given earlier in the discussion, I didn't go back that far.
    The R, RR and RRR measures have been used in other books but I think ESC has always used the more detailed ones.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Something to keep in mind, there are a great many rarity scales. Typically every author who writes a book comes up with his own rarity scale. But there are times when one author will use a scale created by another. The reason I'm mentioning this is while they all pretty much use the same or very similar designations such as C or R or RR or RRR or R x number, etc etc - those designations often have entirely different meanings. So when you see a rarity scale referenced or used by somebody you have to know specifically which scale it is they are referencing for it to have any meaning. And if you're bidding on coins, that can make a huge difference !
     
  8. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    Good point, Doug. Here are a few more rarity scales. I need to be careful. I may become a collector of rarity scales. :)

    Cal

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    Sheldon scale:
    Yes, he had a rarity scale in addition to a grading scale.

    U - Unique
    R8 - 2 - 3 known
    R7 - 4 - 12 known
    R6 - 13 - 30 known
    R5 - 31 - 75 known
    R4 - 76 - 200 known
    R3 - 201 - 500 known
    R2 - 501 - 1250 known
    R1 - more than 1250 known

    Scale used in U.S. Pattern Coins, 10th ed. and some earlier, by J. H. Judd:
    It's the same as the Sheldon scale but with high and low divisions of R7 and R6.

    U - Unique
    R8 - 2 - 3 known
    High R7 - 4 - 6 known
    Low R7 - 7 - 12 known
    High R6 - 13 - 20 known
    Low R6 - 21 - 30 known
    R5 - 31 - 75 known
    R4 - 76 - 200 known
    R3 - 201 - 500 known
    R2 - 501 - 1250 known
    R1 - more than 1250 known

    Scale used in American Half Cents by Cohen.
    Based, in part, on the Sheldon scale.

    R8 - fewer than 4 known
    R7 - 4 - 12 known
    R6 - 13 - 30 known
    R5 - 31 - 75 known
    R4 - 76 - 200 known
    R3 - Scarce
    R2 - Not so common
    R1 - Common
     
  9. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    But please keep American vs. British separate!
     
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