Proof Buffalo Nickels

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mcarney1173, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. mcarney1173

    mcarney1173 Senior Member

    I recently purchased a nice Uncirculated 1936 Buffalo Nickel for $5.50. When I got home and looked in the price guide I found that 36' was a year of Proof Nickels too. I took a closer look at the coin and noticed huge die polish lines everywhere on the coin especially in the field beneath the buffalo's head. It does not look cleaned at all. The coin has a lot of light yellow toning and a cleaning would have taken that off. Could this actually be a proof? Are there any other ways to determine whether it is or not. Will try to post pics this afternoon.
     
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  3. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Most likely whissed long ago and re-toned.

    Most likely whissed long ago and re-toned.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    no comments until we see the pictures.

    Also, you did not mention if the coin was purchased as an unc?

    If so, for $5.50, who cares?
    J/K
     
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Hey you never know!! Post a pic, what have you got to lose? Oh and don't use a flash or you might get yelled at like I did. :D
     

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  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    It is extremely unlikely it is a proof, but take a picture and post it, and we should be able to tell quite quickly.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. the easiest way for me to tell a proof 36 (and keep in mind there are both satin proofs and brillian proofs) is to look at the date. On a proof coin, the date is always hammered -- the edges are square and the strike full. On a business struck coin, it never looks the same (the date looks "mushy"). Here's a 36 satin proof so you can see what I'm talking about:

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  8. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    Also, compare the rim to a normal uncirculated Buffalo nickel. The rim should be much more defined and actually appear wider on the proof, if that's what it is.
     
  9. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    I have never seen die polish lines of the type/extent you described on a 1936 Proof Buffalo nickel, and I have seen a lot of them over the years. Additionally, the yellow color you described could easily have been acquired after a cleaning. Sight-unseen, I'd say not to it being a Proof.
     
  10. mcarney1173

    mcarney1173 Senior Member

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  11. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    The imaged coin looks like a cleaned, lightly circulated business strike example to me.
     
  12. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    I agree with Mark. It's easy sometimes to confuse a cleaned coin with a proof, especially if the coin has retoned.
     
  13. Breakdown

    Breakdown Member

    Mark Feld is correct (it can be annoying but he usually is;)). Sorry but there's a number of clear indicators your coin is not a proof. Look at "Liberty", look at the date, look at the rims. These are all inconsistent with a Buffalo proof. Also, there is clear wear which would be uncommon for a proof.

    You have given me an excuse to post photos of my 36 Satin Proof, which is also my avatar. Leadfoot's above is the Brilliant Proof type.
     

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  14. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    I'm not positive, but I think the one Leadfoot posted 1) is not his; 2) is one that I sold previously; 3) is a satin and not a brilliant Proof. Of course if it's a different coin than the one Im thinking of, I could be wrong on all three counts.:crying:
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    It is mine, I don't believe you ever sold it (I know I didn't buy it from you), and it is a satin.

    1 for 3 ain't bad. ;)
     
  16. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Did it, by chance, come from ML? If so, I sold it years ago (and am up to 2 for 3). :cool: But if not, I'm stuck at 1 for 3.:mad:
     
  17. Breakdown

    Breakdown Member

    Well and on top of all that, Leadfoot actually said in his post that it was a Satin:eek:. This is what happens when you try to write a post from looking at something from memory (once you go advanced, you can't scroll up to see the previous posts).

    Well, now someone should post a photo of a Brilliant example. I'm still looking for one I like so I don't have one.
     
  18. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    2 for 3 it is. :)
     
  19. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    and (back to the OP) the pictures by Mccartney are of two different coins.
     
  20. mcarney1173

    mcarney1173 Senior Member

    The toning is weird and I tried to highlight the detail especially, all five pictures are of the same coin. Weird Angles.
     
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