Possible Error Coin

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by thecheek, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. thecheek

    thecheek New Member

    Hey, I don't have a pic yet, but I will get one up soon. I think I might have a possible error coin on my hands. Two actually. I can't find anything online about them. They are brand new 2011 Chickasaw quarters and on the heads side there are brushed marks that look like they happened before the coin was stamped. They almost look like streaks in the silver. (Not actually silver I know :)) If you look closely at in the hair you can see the waves from the streaks. I looked online and I can't really find a description for that kind of damage or defect on a coin. On one coin you see the streaks fully, and then on the other you can see the outer edges and less in the middle. Like some how they may have been in sequence. I dunno really... Ideas? I will get pics up soon. Monday probably.
     
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  3. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    definitely need to see pictures to help ya and try the search function to just in case someone else posted a question like yours (not trying to sound mean, trying to save you some time)

    Welcome aboard btw.
     
  4. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

  5. thecheek

    thecheek New Member

    Not quite. They are smears like the blank coin got scratched but not deeply and then it got pressed. The scratches are smooth and not deep.
     
  6. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    gotta have pics.
     
  7. thecheek

    thecheek New Member

    I'll get them on Monday. :D
     
  8. HowardStern

    HowardStern Member

    starburst lamination error?
     
  9. thecheek

    thecheek New Member

    Yes! That is almost exactly what it looks like! I have two that look like they both have almost the exact same error pattern.
     
  10. thecheek

    thecheek New Member

    Ok here you go! You can see them better on the heads side. Two coins have them front and back.

    coin heads.jpg coin tails.jpg

    I don't know that they are worth anything, but I think they all came from the same roll. I work at a financial institution and sold several new rolls of these coins to different merchants, and these have made it back to me. What do you guys think?

    Is this a sunburst lamination pattern error? Worth anything? Or just neat to see?

    Thanks in advance. :D
     
  11. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Don't know what starburst lamination is, it's a new one on me. From what I can see, my guess is it's from grease on the die.
     
  12. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I don't know what it is. Can you get a close up of one coin?
     
  13. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    Looks like someone used a magic marker on them, and the ink wore off the high spots in circulation.
     
  14. thecheek

    thecheek New Member

    1. Click on the picture and you can see it zoomed in.
    2. There is no marker. the surface is completely smooth. No marker residue and they coins almost match exactly, I don't think a person would be able to do that without actually damaging the coin. I think it is a lamination error. If you could see it in the light you'd see its actually backwards from the scan. I mean the coin is normal, and those marks are actually lighter and shinier, almost like a scratch but no raised edges where a scratch would dig in.

    3. These coins are basically brand new. I got them from an all Chickasaw quarter roll box from a bank. I know they most likely aren't directly from the mint, but they are still very new.
     
  15. Thelionwarrior

    Thelionwarrior Active Member

    So... I just got a roll and out of the whole roll I have 4 like yours.... Did you find anything out about these?
     
  16. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I've seen a lot of those quarters. Not always the same "pattern", but close. I always thought it could possibly be from polishing the dies after die clashes, but can't prove it one way or the other. The "smooth" areas sometimes seem smooth, and others it seems to sometimes have a tiny bit of texture to it, and other times it seems it might be because the die itself has been worn enough away to not give a good hit on the planchet.

    I see them enough that I generally don't save them, but again, I don't know the cause. I would have to say it has to have something to do with the die.
     
  17. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    this is called struck thru grease coins. the coin dies becomes coated with grease and junk.
     
  18. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on


    I won't say that grease might not have a play in this, but it's amazing that all this grease is laying only on certain parts of the surface surrounding the main device (mainly) and having a certain look to it, yet this same grease that is covering the fields doesn't get stuck into these same die devices. It would make more sense to be fully just grease if it were more linked to grease filled devices/lettering.

    So is this greasyness neccessary to lube only the central part of the die?
     
  19. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    the coin dies can become greasy and dirty on any part of the die. If anyone is looking thru a new roll of coins from the mint and finds one of these there will probably be more of them that are similar looking in the same roll. if you ever get lucky enough to find a dropped letter coin it will sometimes be associated with some of this struck thru grease.
     
  20. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    PS> If it's just greasy dies, maybe there's been excessive polishing of the die surface (fields) enough so the greasiness is sticking in there, yet not in the deeper devices.

    Give me a better scenario.


    :hail:
     
  21. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I believe you will figure it out then let us know
     
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