I currently have what I believe to be an 1888 8/7 Indian Head. I recently ended up noticing what appeared to be the 8/7 as I was fixing to sell this coin since it was a duplicate of what I already had. Thankfully I noticed it before selling it! As many of you are aware this coin is small and it is extremely difficult to see the 8/7. I am only able to see this with high exposure/flash and shooting it at the perfect angle. This is mainly due to the amount of corrosion located in this area of the coin. From what I can tell I can clearly depict what looks like a "7" running through the middle of the last 8 even comes outside of the 8. I'm also clearly able to see (again through photo only with high exposure/flash) the 7 moving down at an angle. At the bottom left of the 8, there is a raised area that is similar to the bottom of the 7 but it is corroded as well. Lastly, at the top left of the 8, you can slightly see what appears to be the top of the 7. I have taken the time to compare images from PCGS and Heritage Auction's past sales to see if what I have represents something that has already been proved. There is one example from Heritage Auction that clearly shows the 7 inside the top of the 8 running left to right and down which is what mine shows. I'm currently looking at sending this into PCGS for grading/verification of 8/7 however I wanted to get some more input before doing so. Please see the attached pictures. Thanks! (Since I'm new here I'm not sure if this is even allowed but I do have a screen recording where I overlaid a known 8/7 PCGS graded coin with mine. I placed anchor points to align the coin, then placed anchor points on the known coins "7". Lastly, I hide the known coin only leaving the anchor points which do align with mine. You can see the video here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng037u0nkrisbc8/ice_video_20211111-162652.mp4?dl=0 If that link isn't allowed I do apologize)
Hello and Welcome . In my opinion, you need to provide better pictures for us to evaluate this coin and even then that might not be possible . I do see something ,then again , my friend saw UFO's last week too . Real story !!
This one is hard to tell but yours doesn't appear to match the one on pcgs at all,better pictures would help.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1888-7-1c-bn/2169,the second picture shows a closeup of the overdate.
Being how small this coin is and the location of the 8/7 it is extremely difficult to get a good quality image. Here is a decent close-up of what I can see on the side of the last "8". Again, even getting these pictures to show the "7" is extremely difficult. It has to be done through high exposure and at the right angle to be able to show what appears to be a 7. The eye alone only shows what looks to be corrosion.
Not seeing it at all and i think your looking in the wrong spot,you most likely have a common damaged indian cent.I advise not to get the coin certified as it's not the overdate and heavily corroded/damaged.
So what do you believe that "sideways looking T" to be on the right side of that 8? BTW this image was flipped so you are looking at it upside down. That "T" is similar to the shape of the bottom of the top of the 7
I am not trying to be rude but if it's that hard to see than actually why would it be desirable and in turn more rare . I'm just saying there'snot point in the matter if this makes sense . About Mission in my opinion . The coin is damaged anyways .
Well considering a low grade 8/7 is around 1k its always best to check out if a .50-1 penny could bring more lol. No offense taken. Just getting some opinions before deciding what should be done.
I don't think there's a match here. Look closely at the date close-up on @potty dollar 1878's link. There's a lump at the bottom of the 8, and the lump's right-hand edge is directly beneath the inner edge of the lower loop of the 8. Your coin has lots of lumps in lots of positions, but none of them correspond to that feature. When there are lots of random features in an image, we tend to see what we expect (or hope) to see. I think that's what's happening here. (I've spotted lots of "weak D's" on 1911 quarter eagles, and so far none have actually turned out to be present...)
Where did you see 1k ! Not a IHC expert, I can't seeing paying that unless it was high MS in a any variety or error . That's just my opinion though
Best answer yet. Which is exactly what i'm thinking. The only thing that has thrown me off is by looking at low grade PCGS confirmed 8/7's which have sold through Heritage Auction. Some are missing some of the key features listed on PCGS yet they are still confirmed as an 8/7. The biggest thing throwing me off is the top of the 7 running through the middle of the 8 and down as shown in picture 0232
https://coins.ha.com/itm/a/1251-3198.s just one example yes this is a g4 so still over 500 for anything lower.
This overdate is one of the scarcer ones,and uncirculated examples are basically non-exist'int,most are circulated and damaged and yes they can go for thousands just for well worn examples.
If it helps here are a few key areas that seem to draw some confusion. Yes, corrosion does play a huge part in this.