Pos. A and Pos. B on dollars

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  1. lovecoinswalkingliberty

    lovecoinswalkingliberty Well-Known Member

    I was looking at the recent dollars on PCGS COINFACTS and saw Pos. A and B what dot hey meen?
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Why not simply continue with the other coinfacts thread?

    Regardless.... perhaps you could provide a little context? "Pos" could mean "position", but without said context is nothing but speculation.
     
  4. lovecoinswalkingliberty

    lovecoinswalkingliberty Well-Known Member

  5. lovecoinswalkingliberty

    lovecoinswalkingliberty Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]2009-p Position B, PCGS MS68
    [​IMG]Position A PCGS MS68, 2009-p
     
  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You're certainly welcome, but please understand I was only speculating. It wasn't intended as a definitive answer, and simply because without said context I'm not exactly sure what it's supposed to mean.

    Okay... that's better. It's in reference to the edge lettering.
     
  7. lovecoinswalkingliberty

    lovecoinswalkingliberty Well-Known Member

    Maby to do with the edge???
     
  8. lovecoinswalkingliberty

    lovecoinswalkingliberty Well-Known Member

    Sorry, didn't reload the page, so didn't see your post about the edge
     
  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Position A is looking at the coins edge from the obverse facing up. The lettering and other information will be right side up. Position B is just the opposite and the lettering will be upside down, looking at the coins edge from the obverse facing up. It happens randomly during the upsetting process.
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    My personal opinion is that the idea of a Position A or Position B notation is about as dumb as a donut since it is totally random. The idiot who came up with this idea probably believes that all doorknobs should be marked clockwise or counterclockwise.

    Chris
     
  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    You could not be more correct. But I do know of a few people who have picked up blank Dansco's and are now assembling a set of these raw. Purists who have to be so complete I guess.
     
  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Naturally, you won't find PCGS complaining because it effectively doubles the number of submissions for each coin. It was probably their idea in the first place.

    Chris
     
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  13. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The major grading services recognize the up or down orientation of the edge lettering on Presidential Dollars and Sacagawea Dollars, as follows: POSITION A - Edge lettering reads upside-down when the President's portrait faces up. POSITION B - Edge lettering reads normally when the President's portrait faces up.
    http://www.greatcollections.com/kb/...residential-and-Sacagawea-Dollars-t160-4.html
     
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  14. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    As far as modern coins I feel POS means something totally different
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Then, that wasn't the case for NGC until sometime after the release of the GW Prez dollar because it wasn't noted on the coins I submitted. I guess they figured that if some idiots were willing to pay for it, they may as well get on the band wagon, too.

    Chris
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Tommyc03 has it exactly backward. Paddyman98 has it correct.
     
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  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I agree wholeheartedly. But the TPGs were quick to take advantage if it because of the public's reaction when the first modern dollars were released.

    All one needs to do is to think back and remember what happened back then. The coin forums, coin mags, websites, even mainstream media - all of it was saturated with stories over the edge lettering. Some of it about this word or words being missing, others about the letter orientation in regard to obv/rev - and of course the scarcity that any of this entailed for any given example. Which of course created the all too common modern day mania with sales. When absolutely none of it was warranted.

    As I have quoted before many times - we have met the enemy and he is us !
     
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  18. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Had it backwards but I was on the right track. Old fart syndrome. ;)
     
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