PLEASE someone? Intrinsic metal of 1000 peso coin

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by UncleKin, Nov 10, 2007.

  1. UncleKin

    UncleKin New Member

    I would like to explain to people why these coins are worthless. To say that they are no longer accepted as currency is not an answer. A coin can still have intrinsic value. And people want to know what it is.

    Can someone PLEASE tell me the intrinsic metal composition of a 1000 peso 1988 mexican coin. I would like to know their melt value.

    I would welcome reference to your info (book or article you read that stated the metal content of these coins).

    Thank you very much.

    UncleKin
     
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  3. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Googled " 1000 peso coin mexico"

    Made of base metal 1984/1989 ( basically worthless )
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are actually several 1000 peso mexican coins, some even made of gold. But the common 1988 1000 peso is made of an aluminum bronze alloy which would be worth a few cents at best. The gold version, struck in Proof, 1 oz, is worth bullion value.

    So which one do you have ?
     
  5. UncleKin

    UncleKin New Member

    I believe mine is one of the cheap one. It is a gold color with what looks like a gal on the obverse or a guy with a hood pulled over his head. Not certain which. But the coin is a gold color and quite heavy so would not think it is aluminum.

    I will put an image up if interested.

    -Ken
     
  6. UncleKin

    UncleKin New Member

    Here is the image. Blurry as I just took it with one hand. But one can see the obverse.

    http://www.wildlanders.com/members/aws/temp/peso1000.jpg

    I put it on my cheap scale and it weighs about 1/2 ounce.

    I would like to find out the copper content or any other metal. Even if only 15 grams, it would be worth the copper for melt value. And one might be able to buy these for much cheaper where, as I understand it, people throw them away. So I am looking for a specific metal composition in percentages.

    -ken
     
  7. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    What's the pointing about the potential metal value when seperating the copper out from aluminum is a costly labour? Perhaps the cost of seperating such metals will even exceed what you have there unless you have more than a few tonnes of them.
     
  8. UncleKin

    UncleKin New Member

    gxseries,

    There is a reason I am asking for the actual percentage composition. One is to see who really knows their stuff. In addition, until one actually knows their subject one cannot fully benefit from it. And so I am asking about Mexican coin composition. But this is true of all things.

    As for what I have or will find out, I am not going to tell you my secrets... :rolleyes:

    -UncleKin
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The coin is aluminum bronze of that there is no doubt. Exact composition is not listed in the Krause catalog, so that's about all you're gonna find out.
     
  10. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    The coin shows Juana de Asbaje (Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz) who was a 17c nun and poet; she is also depicted on the current 200 pesos notes. The Schön catalog just mentions an "Al-N-Bro" composition - that would mean Cu92 Al06 Ni02, maybe a little more copper and a little less aluminum ...

    Christian
     
  11. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    I would be thinking about 15 cents...its got a greater face value...
     
  12. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Not really. That $1000 coin is worth 1 peso in today's currency, and that would be $0.09 ... Also, in order to get that 1 peso for it, you would have to take it to a bank or service center of the central bank. :D

    Christian
     
  13. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    How much does it cost to do electrolysis ?
     
  14. monetarium

    monetarium Member

    If it has Juana de Asbaje on obverse, then it is aluminum-bronze.
    Not worth much for its metal value, but if it is in XF -AU condition, maybe US$3.00 -$4.00?
     
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