penny brown or red !?!?

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  1. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    hi, the Lincoln penny are called Brown, red / brown, red. a question to the experts are given three types because they were made with different materials? or be a state of conservation? What does a brown or red penny become in storage? thanks for the answers
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It's actually Red, Red Brown and Brown

    The colors are usually because of natural toning. Red is not actually red, it is the shiny new look of a freshly minted Cent. After time it gets darker. Hence Red Brown then Brown.
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Here is a chart -
    US0001-Lincoln-Wheat-Copper-Color-Scale-56a177e03df78cf7726af244.jpg
     
  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Ooh there's a nice 31-S in the chart. And 1910-S.
     
  6. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    so first red / then go on brown with the years according to this theory the brown as it is more aged should be worth more in dollars instead of being on the contrary red pay more! what escapes me ??
     
  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Red is worth more as it is more desirable and closer to new than brown.
     
  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Not necessarily.. Other factors give Cents value besides color such as condition and mintage (key date)
     
  9. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    ok now I understand the red is worth more to be more real at the day of printing. Another question: what kind of conservation to be the one that leaves the initial red, enveloping, particular preserves in particular environments or other ???
     
  10. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    upload_2019-1-16_22-5-38.png
    BE CORRECT ORDER FROM RED TO BROWN
     
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  11. gianni

    gianni Active Member

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    THIS BEING THE STORE OF THE CONSERVATION COLOR AT START (RD) MORE ABOUT THE BROWN (BR) STRAIGHT CONSERVATION
     
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  12. paddyman98

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  14. Kentucky

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    When cent coins are made, they leave the mint in "Red" coloration. If these coins are immediately conserved, i.e. preserved from the ravages of oxidation by being sealed in some sort of container, they will stay "Red" for an extended period of time. After sufficient time, many of these will start to oxidize and start to produce copper oxide and will become "Red Brown" and eventually they will end up as "Brown". "Tis common all who live will die..."
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'll give it a try, Mr. P, but I know I shouldn't.

    Below is a photo of a Kennedy half dollar that is missing the clad layer on the reverse, and the central core of copper has been exposed. It came in a $100 Mixed P&D mint bag (canvas) that I ordered from the US Mint in 2004. It had never been in circulation, and I immediately put it in a PVC-free plastic flip until I submitted it for grading. It has been authenticated and encapsulated by NGC and has been in their holder for almost 15 years. You can see how this coin has maintained the brilliant color that, if it were on a Lincoln cent, would be considered Red (RD).

    Chris

    2001-D 50c REV Slab.jpg
     
  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    That's purty...
     
  17. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yeesh!
     
  18. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    ok.. I know you are new at this but I just wanted you to know that coins are struck/minted.. not printed.
    Paper Currency is printed with ink ;)
     
  19. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    can an MS67 penny of brown color exist or it must be forced red ???
     
  20. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    yes, sorry error from google translate
     
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  21. Kentucky

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    The condition or grade (wasn't there a thread about this...) is one thing and the color is a totally different matter.
     
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