notgeld

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by Vercingetorix, Feb 8, 2007.

  1. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Member

    hi, everyone. three quick questions.

    first, i'm new to collecting german interwar notgeld, and would appreciate any suggestions re: background material, either written or online.

    second, i was wondering if anyone has any opinions as to the best way to store smallish paper currency like notgeld. binders with inserts, for example? any preferred manufacturers?

    third, i've purchased a few sets of notgeld off of ebay (i know, caveat emptor), and am wondering how likely it is that some of the notes are counterfeit or modern copies, since so many are in excellent condition.

    thanks for helping out a newbie (both to notgeld in particular, and currency in general).

    V.
     
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  3. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Vercingetorix,there was a lot of Notgeld notes that weren't issued,due to the declining value of the Mark (in Germany) & the Korona (in Austria),but there were a lot of collectors of Notgeld notes at the time.There has been a lot of catalogues written about Notgeld notes.I am sure that one of the German members can help you regarding this.

    Aidan.
     
  4. dove

    dove New Member

    First, it´s important to know, what kind of Notgeld you want to collect.
    There are a few different types of Notgeld
    - so called Serienscheine (these notes were issued only for collectors between 1918 and 1922)
    - Kleingeldscheine or Verkehrsausgaben (these notes were issued for circulation with denominations less then 1 Mark)
    - Grossnotgeld (notes with denominations between 1 an 100 Mark)
    - Inflation 1922
    - Inflation 1923
    - Notgeld with different currency (Dollar, Pound, etc.)

    The reference books (in german language):

    Hans L. Grabowski / Manfred Mehl - Deutsches Notgeld - Band 1+2: Deutsche Serienscheine 1918 - 1922
    ISBN 3-924861-70-6, 2nd edition 2003 (two books)

    Anton Geiger - Deutsches Notgeld - Band 3: Das deutsche Großnotgeld 1918 - 1921
    ISBN 3-924861-79-X, 2nd edition 2003

    Manfred Mueller - Deutsches Notgeld - Band 4: Die Notgeldscheine der deutschen Inflation von August 1922 bis Juni 1923
    ISBN 3-924861-80-3, 2nd edition 2003

    Hans-Ludwig Grabowski - Deutsches Notgeld - Band 5+6: Deutsche Kleingeldscheine 1916 - 1922
    ISBN 3-924861-85-4, 1st edition 2004 (two books)

    Dr. Arnold Keller Deutsches Notgeld - Band 7+8: Das Notgeld der deutschen Inflation 1923 (Reprint)
    ISBN 3-924861-86-2, 1st edition 2004 (two books)


    The notes in excellent condition are often so called Serienscheine. The reason for the condition is, that they never were in circulation.
     
  5. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I have a small collection (Couple of Hundred) and I just love the art work that went into them :thumb:

    De Orc :kewl:
     
  6. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Jurgen,what do those Notgeld notes that are denominated in Kilowatt Hours of electricity & measures of gas look like?

    Aidan.
     
  7. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Member

    thanks very much for the responses -- much appreciated. i feel better knowing that the crisp notes are likely serienscheine, and not a scam.

    still very interested to hear if anyone has tips re: storage.

    also, has anyone ever seen a note like the Kevelaer note below? i'm sure they're quite common, but i'd be interested to know what sorts of organizations issued notgeld (other than cities/towns, or merchants). i'd also love to hear if anyone knows about these notes in particular. i've also posted a cool note from bruchausen -- i like the art a lot.

    i agree, Orc -- the notes are so varied and the artwork on so many of them is really impressive. this seems like a fun and generally inexpensive area to collect in, and the history of the period is fascinating. good stuff.
     

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  8. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    If you have any Notgeld notes you can't identify,please post some photos? One of the German members will be back & translate the inscription.

    Aidan.
     
  9. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Kevelaer is a town (pop. about 30,000) in what today is the state of North Rhine Westphalia, about half way between Duisburg (DE) and Nijmegen (NL). It is a famous pilgrimage destination, and the madonna on the other side is this one: http://www.wallfahrt-kevelaer.de/bilder/1_1_4.jpg

    Ther other note is from Bruchhausen, now part of the city of Höxter, also in NW. The somewhat bloody looking scene (see this page http://www.heinemeier.de/wagen2.htm) refers to the Feme courts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_the_Holy_Court ... but according to that heinemeier.de article nobody knows whether there ever was a Feme court in Bruchhausen. May just be a great spooky story. :D

    Christian
     
  10. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Christian,I have heard of the Fehmic courts.There was a Nazi court that claimed to be derived from the Fehmic courts,because the only penalty that was imposed was the death penalty.

    Aidan.
     
  11. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Member

    Christian, you're quite the resource. thanks for your response, and the excellent links.

    V.
     
  12. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I keep mine in a banknote binder and a postcard binder LOL

    De Orc :D
     
  13. dove

    dove New Member

    The issues denominated in kwh are very rare. One of the issuers was the Staedtische Licht- und Wasserwerke, Neustettin in Pommern (Muncipal Light & Gas Company, Neustettin in Pomerania). Neustettin is actually located in Poland and the new name is Szczecinek. I´ve never saw these notes, but maybe an other member can help.
     
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