New variety of Canada 1882 h (large/small h) large cent?

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  1. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    The Canada large cent described and imaged below, appears to exhibit two Zoell numbers in combination as its obverse and a large H over small H reverse (Zoell T5n).

    THE OBVERSE OF THIS COIN APPEARS TO BE A COMBINATION OF TWO ZOELL NUMBERS AS FOLLOWS:

    Z:B5d-DOT BELOW EAR.

    Z:S5c-THE 'D' IN 'CANADA' IS OPEN AT THE BOTTOM. THE 'Ns' IN 'CANADA' AND 'REGINA' ARE MISSING THE RIGHT FOOT OF THE LEFT UPRIGHT SO THAT THE SERIFS ONLY POINT OUTWARD. IN ADDITION, THE OBVERSE IS DESIGNATED OBVERSE #1 (ROUND CHIN) AS SHOWN ON THE COINSANDCANADA WEBSITE.

    THE REVERSE OF THIS COIN HAS THE ZOELL DESIGNATION T5n, WHICH EXHIBITS THE LARGE 'H' OVER SMALL 'H' VARIETY. THIS VARIETY IS ALSO INDICATED AT THE 'COINSANDCANADA' WEBSITE AS #21. IN ADDITION, THE REVERSE OF THE EXAMPLE IN HAND, EXHIBITS SLIGHT DOUBLING AT THE INSIDE BOTTOM OF THE UPPER LOOP OF THE FIRST ‘8’, WHICH IS NOT INDICATED IN THE DESCRIPTION OR IMAGE OF THE ZOELL LARGE/SMALL ‘H’ EXAMPLE AT THE COINANDCANADA SITE.

    See images below.

    New variety? All comments welcome.

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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Nice discovery so many varieties on the 1882 H date and Mint Mark. Its funny as I was just looking at some of my Canadian lg cents. The 1888 to be exact. Unfortunately it isnt the 1888 dot. Nice coin keep us posted on your findings. Paddy
     
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  4. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    The 1882's have the 2nd most varieties of all the Vicky large Cents, second only to the 1859's. It has 6 different Obverses, Obv 1, Obv 1a, Obv 1a/1, Obv 2 and Obv 2/1. Couple that with the single serif N's (the '82s used the same Obv as the 1876's which ALL had single serifs) and the numerous different hand-repunched N's to make the N's full serifs and you have over 10 Obverses. Then of course, you have the large over small H's (most if not all have that) and you have a full plate for collectors. Dots are errors, not varieties. You should get the Griffin variety book rather than the old Zoell, and the CaC guide is sporadic at best. That's a nice AU coin.
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well Bill has aways been a go to guy for Canadian coins and notes. To be honest Coins and Canada seems not to be up to date. I use them always but always find I am hunting for more data.

    Now Bill calling a dot an error is new to me, well perhasp on Canadian coinage. I find dots as a dropped tool or in case of an US Indian cent placed on the die to catch a thief at the mint. As a variety collector I find it quite amazing things found on coins that many over look. I have an seated half dime under the date left side ....with what I believe is the upper corner of the shield. And the artifact is trippled.
    Heres an 1876 Indian head cents with a dot on the reverse O•NE . C:WINDOWSTempE846 - 20200502_161530.jpg
     
  6. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    Unless the mintmaster or boss on the floor calls for a dot to be placed somewhere, every "dot" I've seen is a die chip, rust pit, or dropped tool. If the mint did it on purpose, it's a variety; if not, it's an error.
     
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  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Agree 100 %
     
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  8. Mister T

    Mister T Active Member

    Also agreed - I've seen speculation elsewhere that drilling a small hole in a forming crack will help delay the crack but I'd say most or all of the dots I've seen on coins aren't in the middle of a crack.
     
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