New pcgs coin facts!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Goldstone, Jul 31, 2009.

  1. Goldstone

    Goldstone Digging for Gold

    I'm sure that you guys got this email too, but figured I should post it anyway! All for $9.95 a month!! so instead of buying and $130.00 morgan at the end of the year, your mind will be filled with knowledge!
    http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/?utm_source=ezine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ezine07302009
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    All the infromation on every coin is there? If the information I'm looking for ISN'T there do I get my money back? I didn't think so.

    They have that $9.95 figure, can I just purchase access on a month by month basis, or do you have to buy the whole year and it works out to $9.95?
     
  4. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Conder, Either you can pay $9.95 per month to your credit card, or $95.40 up-front for one year. Click here:

    http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/

    And click the "Join Now" button for details.

    Hope this helps...Mike

    p.s. I also understand that you can go to PCGS and sign up for a month for free - just sign up for the service, and cancel before 30 days is up.
     
  5. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    I think I'll just "buy the book" thank you very much. :whistle:


    Although, I must admit coinfacts does have some good pics for reference.
     
  6. Goldstone

    Goldstone Digging for Gold

    yeah, its a bit much for the service they are offering
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    :thumb:

    agreed.
     
  8. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    PCGS Price guide is so messed up that I don't even bother looking at it any more and I surely wouldn't pay for the service.

    I bid on a coin at DLRC. PCGS Price Guide was $500 and DLRC Value Estimate on this item is $99.90-$122.10. I won the coin for $85 and don't see how PCGS price can be so far off all the time.
     
  9. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    This is different than the price guide, they have sales info from all the major auction houses for the last 10 years. From what I have seen this is impressive but in my mind still not enough to join the service.
     
  10. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    Just a note, I had someone look up the Classic Head quarter and Half Eagles and there was no useful data other than population reports and sales data.

    For me they would have to take all the known pubic papers on this series and others and get it online before I would pay that much.
     
  11. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    Sorry didn't know that. I already look at past auction prices before bidding. I still wouldn't pay for that service when the prices are already posted elsewhere for free.
     
  12. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    Agreed, just note how difficult it is to pull past records from Bowers and Marena, Stacks, Goldberg and a few others. Heritage and TT are pretty easy.
     
  13. Goldstone

    Goldstone Digging for Gold

    I only use HA, Ebay, Red Book, and Numismedia when determining what to bid.
     
  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I'll bet the coin was produced after 1964.
     
  15. Goldstone

    Goldstone Digging for Gold

    All one can say is buy the coin not the grade! I've paid 2 times PCGS price for a nicely toned coin
     
  16. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    I decided to try it out for a month just to see what all the rave is about. It is a neat site, and I will definitely be using it for a while; but I don't think it's worth a yearly subscription.

    The "survival estimates" are quite interesting, and obviously needed a lot of research to put together. As it turns out, my two classic head gold coins appear to be my rarest coins based on survival estimates, much rarer than I expected. The estimate for an 1837 $5 in ALL grades(this includes all certified and raw coinage) was a grand total of 350 coins! And my 1839-O quarter eagle estimate was 400! I had no idea they were that low, especially since the original mintage of the 1837 $5 was over 200,000. This is significantly less than the estimate for my 1882 proof dime(mintage of 1,100), which I previously thought was the rarest coin I owned. If their data is any where near accurate, it may open the door for some sleepers to shine. :cool:
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    OK, Johnny, so why do those late 1830's gold have such a low survival rate?

    Conversely, why do the late 1880's proofs have such a high survival rate?
     
  18. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    From everything I've seen they have taken something free like coinfacts, and just put it into a way to scam people for money
    This is no different than if you had a membership to PCGS, you see the same stuff.
    In other words it really isn't that useful if you have a membership to PCGS.

    I just don't understand why PCGS had to go out and ruin this for us, we had a free resourceful site, and now we have to pay to use it.
     
  19. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Well, I expect in general that classic head gold coins from the mid 1830s would have a much lower survival rate than the proof, that much is true. I just didn't expect it to be THAT extreme.

    The pre-1834 gold coins should have a MUCH lower survival rate, primarily because they contained more gold than the post 1834 gold coins. Because of this, they would be worth more than face value and therefore be logical candidates for the melting pot.

    However, the classic head gold coins don't fit into this category, since they have pretty much the same amount of gold per coin from 1834-1933.

    Also, there is a lot of inconsistency even between my two examples in the same series. The 1839-O $2.5 had an initial mintage of 17,781, Approx survival rate of 400 = %2.2 survived. The 1837 classic head gold had initial mintage of 207,000, approx survival rate of 350 = .16% survived.

    Is this a test?:goofer:
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    But like a lot of gold they would be used for export to pay for goods (gold is gold and you couldn't ship check for payment of imports. In some cases a letter of credit could be arranged, but that was unusual.) Typically settlements were made by shipping gold coin, and when the coin arrived elsewhere it would be melted down and recoined into the local coinage.

    Question. Are all the pictures back? The half cents, early and middle date large cents used to have pictures of almost every variety. On the free site now most of the pictures are gone. For example on the 1796 draped bust cents there are only pictures of two of the thirty four varieties.
     
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