Need help identifying old copper

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  1. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    20161130_202134.jpg 1480555702221-1080450540.jpg 14805557438651102369478.jpg This old copper was passed down from my grandfather. I have looked at it numerous times but never have been able to identify it. It weights 11.8 grams, is 29 mm wide and the edge appears to have some type of devices or lettering. It's in poor shape but I'm still curious.
     
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  3. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    Almost could be an early 1800 Cent, but its a gram to heavy. 1835 half cent possibly?
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2016
  4. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I positive it's not from the US mint.
     
  5. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    look up Fugio Cents.
     
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  6. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    Like this one on the left? Doesn't look quite right. image.jpeg
     
  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    The chains on the fugio go in closer to the center than the coin pictured
    fugio.jpg
     
  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    beat me to it
     
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  9. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I thought it might be an old Russian copper like this:
    image.jpeg
     
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  10. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    its too bumpy on the inside of the outer ring to be this one... close though. I'm sure theres a variety of that coin with the bumpy interior
     
  11. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I originally thought Fugio but it looks like a wreath or something on the bottom of the reverse.

    Do you have a measurement for us? I'd recommend perusing numista using around 27 and 28 mm diameter, Cu for metal, as well as wreath for design. Note: sometimes you have to press Search twice because the first time will pull up nothing.

    My guess:
    http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25231.html
     
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  12. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    The weight is 11.8 grams and the diameter is 29 mm. Thanks I will try searching this database.
     
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  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Try old French coins, I seem to remember the wreath on the reverse
     
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  14. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    This might be the coin. It's close on diameter & weight and has the edge lettering I couldn't read. What's really weird is my GGG-grandfather was born in Paris, France in 1799 and the entire family fled from France to Canada in 1801. Could it possibly be a family pocket piece passed down 4 generations?

    Features

    Country France
    Years 5-9 (1796-1800)
    Calendar French republican
    Value 5 Centimes (0.05)
    Metal Bronze
    Weight 10 g
    Diameter 28 mm
    Thickness 2 mm
    Shape Round
    Orientation Coin alignment ↑↓
    Demonetized 10-01-1856
    References KM# 640, Gad# 126
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  15. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    Lettering: REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE

    Translation: FRENCH REPUBLIC
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    That's the one.

    :)
     
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  17. mill rat41

    mill rat41 Member

    My first guess was gonna be Albany Church penny.
     
  18. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Congrats on figuring it out :)
     
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