National Numismatic Certification Service: Good Or Bad?

I recently saw an older commemorative coin on Ebay that I am considering buying but it is graded by the National Numismatic Certification service. I have read comments online that coins are over-graded or they are cleaned. The coin I am looking at was graded back in 1986. Was the grading service better back in 1986? The coin is graded MS64.

 

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NNC? Never heard of them. Who knows what happened or how they graded back in 1986
Basement slab company.
If the price is good then get it.

 

Sounds like a junk grader

 

Agreed with the others...sounds like the grading company is not reputable. That said, it doesn't mean the coin inside is junk. Look it over. Evaluate it like it's raw and decide if it's worth adding to your collection.

 

Consider it raw and then deduct even more since it's harder to see the rims.

 

Agreed, consider a lower bid on a self-slabbed coin than you would on a raw one presented honestly.

 

Never heard of them. Stick with PCGS or NGC.

 

NNC on their BEST day was a junk grader.

 

Buy the coin and not the holder; I would ignore the listed grade and evaluate the coin itself.

 

I think the op meant this NNCS:

Little info on them:
“NNCS (National Numismatic Certification Service) I know nothing about this service other than that it was reported to me to have been located in Marlboro, Massachusetts and produced a rectangular slab beginning in 1986”

@Conder101 do you know anything more now?

 

Initially I thought these were very scarce, but I have personally seen a few (so I now think they are just moderately scarce). As far as grading, the one I used to own looked appropriate for the grade. This company might have made some errors, but their quality is much better than NNC.

Here is the example that I used to own:

 

There is a NNC which is far more prevalent.

 

True, but read this statement from the OP:
“I am looking at was graded back in 1986”
Then look at the date on the slab and the grade (same MS 64 as in the OP).
And the coin in my first photo sold yesterday on eBay (same day as the OP asked their question).

 

True, personally I don't put any weight into the "dating" of most of these other random services. Too easy to type anything on a label even in an old looking font.

 

I don’t know for certain if it was graded in 1986 (besides reading the snippet from Conder), but I am using that piece of info to confirm that the OP was referring to the coin whose picture I posted. NNC slabs don’t have grading dates on them.

My guess would be that the NNCS slab is from the 1980s as the style is similar to others from that period. Plus, while possible, I have not yet heard of anyone making bogus slabs that look or say that they came from the 1980s (considering we omit the retro reissues that NGC and PCGS have recently put out).

 

Not much more to add about the company, they were active in 1986 and seem to have disappeared around 1988. Most of the pieces I have seen are registered to Whittman-Burke which isn't a good sign as that could potentially indicate a self slabber. I haven't tried the phone number on the back of the slab lately. Last time I did it went to the Eagle Creek Ranch. As far as the grades assigned, who knows. That was 1986, the only grading service using all 11 MS grades was PCGS, in fact there wasn't even a published grading standard for all of them just 60, 63, 65, 67, and 70. MS grades could still be pretty much anything you wanted them to be and one companies standards really couldn't be compared to that of another. (This is still true today otherwise coins graded at one firm would grade the same at another. Grading is subjective and there is no such thing as a "correct" grade.)

 

Thanks for this perspective Conder. Appreciate the update.

 

I looked up NNC and it said they have been Numismatic Experts for only 25 years.

 

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