Modern clad toning show and tell - under appreciated and under valued?

As many know, I am a fan of toned coins. Finding naturally toned silver coins is easy as pie due to silver being highly reactive to agents, chemicals, air quality, storage environments, etc..
This is one of the reasons I really enjoy finding clad toned coins.
To find naturally toned, attractive clad coins is far from an easy task. Just do a search on ebay and that quickly becomes apparent.
So to me, these rare clad toners should fetch a much higher premium than their silver brethren. There just doesn't seem to be a market for them right now though. I understand that it's nice to have silver content, but when you are paying a premium for toning that far exceeds it's melt value, I think the silver becomes mute.
One thing I have noticed is that there is an abundance of artificially toned clad coins available on ebay. However, they are so ridiculous and obvious, I can't believe they fool anyone.
Many clad coins will tone, but the majority of the time, they do not produce nice vivid colors or nice rainbows. The toning will be muted and not have that "pop" that the silver toners display.
I have been able to put together a pretty nice collection of these clads that break these general impression of modern toning.

So I thought I would share some with the group. You can see the similarities in colors and patterns between the different series.
Side note: The first sign of AT, or rapid toning on clad coins is purple colors.

Here are a group I just pulled from a BU completed Dansco. Only one of the silver dimes were toned and of the rest, only these were toned. There wasn't any "in between" They were either monster toned like this, or they were blast white.
These happen to be the most spectacular toned clad dimes I have ever come across.

I will only post a handful of the dimes.
If you would like to see all 27 Roosevelt clad toners from the same album, here is the gallery

Image dump. brace yourselves.
If you take anything away from this post, let it be that these are the types of colors and patterns you are looking for when determining if a modern clad coin has natural color. Almost every one of these came from albums.









Here are a few naturally toned clads from other series.
You can really get a good idea of what to look for when accessing whether or not a clad toner is natural.




















Thanks for looking. Have a super day.

-greg

 

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Beautiful coins. I especially like toning on the '75-D dime.

Where in the world did you get such a nice '69 quarter!?!!

 

That 72 S dime looks exceptional! Great coins!!

 

gbroke, I found this in a sealed bank roll of Missouri quarters. You mentioned that purple on new clad would indicate AT. This one always had my head scratching because who and where was it AT?

 

I just picked up a 2001 S Clad Kennedy proof PF 69 Ultra Cameo... it is just developing a hint of golden toning. It's especially noticable when next to a blast-white proof coin.

I can't get a picture that shows it though...will have to see if I can get different lighting sometime to make it show.

 

I especially like the half dollars and my new Jefferson set. I'm surprised you parted with a few of those especially the 62 proof. Hope you don't mind if I use some of your images.

 

Normally, I don't like Roosevelt Dimes...

This is one that is the exception to the rule...

Wow!!

Beautifully toned Ike's!

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Wow!, real nice group of toners. Thanks for posting them!

 

Glad you like them Kirkuleez. I will gladly part with any toner as long as I still have one for myself. I am pretty covered on Jeffersons.

I want to clarify regarding the purple I mentioned above.
Jefferson nickels, like in Kirks album above, especially the 60's proofs, are prone to tone this shade of purple. The patterns are a perfect indicator of them developing over time in this album.



I was referring to cartoon purples that look like this.


Fallguy, yours seem to kind of fall in the middle. I don't believe the toning would be considered "market acceptable". That doesn't mean the quarter was toned intentionally though. It could have been exposed to high heat. improper storage conditions, or something else that caused the toning to develop fairly rapidly.

 

We have the same taste. That one is also my favorite.

 

When it's a cameo proof, you really have to blast it with light to highlight the color. especially gold tones. Toned cameo proofs are not easy to capture.

That's why I try and show both view of a proof. Direct and indirect lighting.

For example:

2 lights: 10 and 2 oclock without any light shining on the coin.


One light directly over top lighting up the entire coin.

 

No cheating robec! Trying to sneak some silver in there?

 

But it is 40% clad. and modern.

 

Darn loopholes!

 

Thanks for the advice - I will try that. The toning looks similar to your 2nd image, although even more faint at this point. I've just started to fill-in my Kennedy collection and most are close to blast white, so this new one stood out as the color was clearly different. Almost looks like one of those gold-plated coins some of the services sell, but I'm sure that's not the case here since it's slabbed.

 

Great thread gbroke....nice roosies!

I found 6 of these rainbow toned Kennedy's while coin roll hunt. They are all 72's and look amazing in your hand...unfortunately my pictures don't do a good job showing them off.

Anyway, they look natural to me and if they are, when you talk about premiums what would toners like these fetch...a couple of dollars? Or are $10's?
Thanks

 

Some great looking toners Greg , thanks for sharing . :thumb:

 

@gbroke

does the gold toning on Jeff. proofs have a negative effect when submitting for a cross over or regrade?

 

It's worth asking, and we'd love to see him again, but @gbroke hasn't posted here since early 2017.