Missing clad layer?

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  1. meandyou4ever0

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    Is it possible that these Dimes all have a missing clad layer? 2023-3-13 3-34-31.jpg 2023-3-13 3-32-32.jpg IMG_20230313_033527.jpg 2023-3-13 3-33-25.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    No, Sorry. Just stained, dirty and environmentally toned and or damaged. :(;)
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    No. They're merely discolored (environmental damage).
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    None are Missing Clad Layer.
    Usually it would be just 1 side missing of the clad planchet. As stated by Sal they are Cupro-Nickel clad with environmental toning damage.

    Here are many examples of Clad coins and Nickels (Also Cupro-Nickel) from my metal detecting digs with environmental exposure just like all your dimes. :yack:

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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    This is what a dime with an actual missing clad layer should look like.

    Red-brown exposed (inner) copper core on one side, whitish original copper-nickel (outer) layer on the other.

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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Another thing. It's sad that there are people who actually list those environmentally toned coins on ebay and state that they are missing clad layer. Most of the time they are definitely not.

    Here are some attributed Missing Clad Layer examples from my collection. They are usually just on one side. The label has the info. The other side is the normal clad color.

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  8. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    @paddyman98 gave you nice examples of what to look for.
     
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  9. Laurie B

    Laurie B Well-Known Member

    I see all kinds of coins on ebay saying they are missing clad that is why I ask you guys when I am not quite sure Thanks:)
     
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  11. meandyou4ever0

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    Just by looking at the coins how do I determine the difference in missing clad layers and environmental?
     
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  12. meandyou4ever0

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    Ok. So what this means is when a coin is missing a clad layer it will most often be only one side of the coin?
     
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  13. meandyou4ever0

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    This answered my question @lordmarcovan
     
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  14. meandyou4ever0

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    Yes sir he did.
     
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  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I believe so, though I guess it's theoretically possible (if unlikely) for a coin to be missing both outer clad layers? That would of course result in, for example, a dime that's all copper- like the color of a cent- on both sides.

    But if both of the outer layers were missing and only the copper core got struck, I think the resulting coin might come out somewhat weakly struck, since the coin would be pretty thin with only that inner layer of the "sandwich" there to receive the strike.

    I've never seen one with more than one clad layer missing, so I'm guessing here. That's a question for the more seasoned error experts.

    Usually with a missing clad layer, you're going to see something more like the dime I posted. Something with a dramatic color difference between the two sides, because two different metallic compositions are showing.
     
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  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Afraid not. It’s just stained, dirty and damaged by the environment.
     
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  17. meandyou4ever0

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    @Collecting Nut @Randy Abercrombie I'm going to try to post some pics and possibly a short video of the races today. We are supposed to have a good crowd Saturday. If anything catches my eye I will be sure to share. :)
     
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  18. meandyou4ever0

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    I keep the information I obtain from everyone here on CT. I I'll be sure to add this info also. Thanks
     
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  20. Collecting Nut

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  21. meandyou4ever0

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    No sir. They don't give out that info on T&T lol
    If he were actually racing someone they would've posted it.
     
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