Malaysia most unique error and expensive 50c coins ever found?Help again please,Tq.

Hi to all of the members over here.Once again,I have just found two Malaysia 50c coins(old and new coins)and I would think this two coins are with unique error(uncommon error) becouse this is also the first time I have seen something like this on this Malaysia coins.The first Malaysia 1982 50c coin is with an unique letter "I" variety on the security edge,the letter "I" is very much wider WITHOUT HOLE in the middle instead of a thinner "I" with hole in the middle normally on the security edge,the "I" is the part of Malaysia word.There are two Malaysia words minted on the security edge,the unique letter "I" is only happend on one side of this coin but the other side of the malaysia word is normal(the letter "I" is thinner with hole in the middle on the security edge).Beside that,I have also compared it together with a few of this 1982 50c coins and their letters "I" are normal with holes in the middle on both words on the security edge of each coin.The second Malaysia 2005 50c coin is with a digit number 2 dissapeared or missing on the obverse side,the number "2" is clearly dissapeared or missing as part of the date,the date is 005 instead of 2005 normally minted on the obverse side of this coin.It looks like that it was minted in the year of AD005 or 2004 years ago and probably it is the oldest Malaysia coin ever made and discovered in the history.Honestly,I have seen letter and word missing on the security edge and on obverse side of some coins but I have never seen an unique or special letter and missing number on the security edge,obverse or reverse side of any coin before except for this two coins.I swear to god I have never used anything to make this errors especially the missing number on the obverse side of the 2005 coin becouse the original luster is still right on the missing part of the surface,if I did wrecked it off by something,the original luster would be gone and probably the missing number part would shine very well just like damage mark or a number 2 shade appears over there and the number 2 still can be seen underneath the white bright light,correct me if Im wrong of this.I believe this are not any common error at all but unique error(uncommon error).Unfortunely,I just cannot confirm if this are genuine unique errors or not because Im not a coin expert,so I need help from you to confirm and certify this type of errors or errors status.Beside that,are this coins with this errors common or rare?Have you seen any coin with a missing number on the date(3 digits instead of 4 digits on the date).Anyway,please check this two coins out showing on the superlarge scans below,click on the images to enlarge it and see carefully and let me know what you think.Dont forget to give me your personal opinion and also answer my questions just now,your help is always apprieiciated from me.Thank you for reading and viewing.:smile:hail::mouth::whistle::stooge::desk:encil::bow::thumb:

 

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So what is the question in 2,000 words or less?:whistle:

 

Your error coins, while interesting, are not unique. The missing 2 in the date is the result of a grease-filled die. Compare the detail of your missing 2 coin with another 50 SEN with the full date. Are other details missing or blurred? Note the B in BANK also looks less distinct.


The fat I is caused by gunk building up around the normal I and causing it to expand and look wider.

 

Thanks FreezerBurn, there was just too much reading there for me.

 

coin_lover, is the I raised above the edge of the coin or is it sunk into the edge like the other letters? Looking at it again it seems to be raised up. Am I correct? I may have given you bad information if it is.

 

coin_lover, another question. Have you ever found a 50 SEN that did not have the security edge lettering? I mean no letters at all.

 

Yes,you are right for the missing number 2 is a result from a grease-filled die,probably the die hole of 2 was strucked by the left metal from the previous coin or something else and then pressed on this coin during the minting process,I got this answer from a coin expert on the other forum,the B in bank and sen look less distinct or blurred on the surface than a normal coin,his opinion and answer are exactly the same like yours.

Are you sure that the 1982 50 sen coin with the unique "I" variety is caused by gunk building up around the normal I and causing it to expand and look wider?Well,I dont think so becouse the "I" should be in the surface with a straight line hole but this unique or special "I" is without hole in the middle.I thought this "I" is unique because it is impossible to have an "I" look like this on the security edge,the "I" shape and size must be the same on the security edge same like the rest of the 50 sen coins showing on the scans.Im very curious to see this "I" is difference and wonder what happened to this coin and the die during the minting process.Please tell me something about it if you know.:thumb::thumb::thumb:

 

Sorry for writting too long for you to read.I need to give full detail on this coins so that you can understand it very well and try your best to help me.:whistle::whistle::whistle:

 

I guess I need to be a little more patient. To many things going on around here. Glad you were able to get an answer.

 

FreezerBurn,the unique letter "I" did not raise or sunk into the edge of the surface but the letter "I" is as same level as the surface,so you are wrong on this one.By the way,did you notice that the "I" is not in straight position but slanding alittle bit than the normal "I" which is in straight position between the S and A in MALAYSIA word.

 

What happened, I believe is that the 'I' broke off to the point that leaves very little to strike the coin with. Thus you have a shallow and crocked 'I'.

 

Did you mean the malaysian very old 50 sen coins produced in the year of 1967,1968 and also 1969 with only the cut reeding on the security edge or without cut reeding?Which one did you mean?Malaysia 50 sen coins started to have the security edge lettering from 1971 onward till now the current new 50 sen coin,if you mean this 50 sen coin without the security edge lettering then I have never seen that before,this must be an error and very rare for sure.

Actually,the more I look at this letter "I" as part of malaysia word,the more I feel it is not an "I" anymore but I think it looks more like a "O" or "0(zero)"to me,my country name MALAYSIA had changed to MALAYSOA or MALAYS0A,pronous it as MA-LAY-SOA or MALAYS-0-A,this is what I can see and feel right now right for this word on the security edge of this coin,do you agree with me and feel what I feel right now at this moment?Please see the "I" again and let me know if my feel and your feel are the same or not.ILL see you soon.:thumb::thumb::thumb:

 

I agree. I suspect the I has broken off and the remnants have been flattened and mishapened to produce the wide slanted I.

I do not know how these coins are minted so cannot say for sure. If it's a one-step process that stamps obverse, reverse and edge in one step the collar has had a character break off and distort. If it's a two-step process like the US Presidential Dollars the dies used to impart the security edge have lost the I. Two different ways for it to happen with the same result. The result is a minor error and has little value unless you can assemble a series of coins showing the progression from normal I to wide slanted I and beyond to possible failure.

 

The I has no significance and as suggested it is a minor amount of debris or damage that caused the I to be a little wider.

The other is a grease filled die scenario.

These have no value particularly on coins from Malaysia.

Thanks,
Bill

 

As far as the text is concerned, TL;DR
The images: I agree with what has been said, debris/grease filled dies. No premium.

 

Bingo, they are correct the I has broken off the edge die.

What I find more interesting is the unusually long L in the second coin down in the first picture.

 

Sorry This My coins that error or not and what series? Thanks

 

I have a 50 cent coin that do not have a security edge lettering but i m not sure if its a fake or not..