Life-time Tet of Philip II---King of Macedon

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  1. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    This large silver tetradrachm of Philip, father of Alexander the Great and a great King in his own right, was exceedingly difficult for me to value let alone to place what I thought was a reasonable bid at auction-----the seller's 'estimate' was $550.00 and my comparable value for grade and type ranged between $300-$400. This coin exhibits many pros and cons: it's a scarcer variation of an already scarce silver coin, yet highly worn and missing the sharp details of the devices we would all prefer, but well-centered while retaining much of its original 'high relief'----sharper details would also have impacted the market value, probably far exceeding my allotted budget for this type. The historical context of the coin is simply fascinating. To quote the descriptions found at numerous auctions:

    "Philip despite Athenian opposition to his participation in the Olympics on the grounds that he was a non-Greek, went on to become an Olympic victor three times in 356, 352 and 348 BC. On the first occasion, Plutarch reports that upon having conquered Potidaia, Philip was informed his horse had won its race and that this day he had also learned of the victory of his general Parmenion against the Illyrians, and that his wife Myrtale had given birth to a son, Alexander. Philip decreed that his wife should henceforth be known as Olympias and he caused these coins to be struck, proudly displaying he and his horse in victorious stance on the reverse."

    Following the victory of Philip's entry in the Olympics in 356 BC, the 'youthful' horseman/jockey was periodically replaced with the reverse of Philip himself as exhibited on this example.

    AR Tetradrachm, Philip II (359-336 BC), King of Macedonia; 14.06 grams, 25 mm
    Laureate head of Zeus right.
    Philip wearing kausia and chlamys, raising his right hand in salute, riding horse walking to left, star below raised foreleg, D behind raised hind leg.
    Struck circa 354-348 BC, Pella mint.
    Le Rider 122 var, SNG ANS 360
    Philip II macedonia.JPG 19764-004-AA001E09 olympia.jpg potidaia  phil II.jpg
    Please post any coin of interest you may have.
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Wow! Love tha coin. I am a big fan of Philip II and Alexander III. Philip's. Horse reverses and devices always really make his coins!
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Lovely coin, like the portrait.
     
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  5. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    @Mikey Zee The coin is awesome in its historic value and although worn, it can be fully attributed. Therefore it is a great score, especially if the price was palletable.
     
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I regret I have NO silvers of Philip II... now I need to get a Lifetime Tet to accompany my Alexander III Lifetime Tet! @Mikey Zee , LOL, YOU are costing me MONEY! :D
     
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  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    LOL

    @Alegandron That's what I'm ALWAYS saying about you and all the gang here on CT;)

    Dang, Now I NEED a lifetime TET of Alexander III too:eek:
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Yep!!!:hungry::)

    That's a beauty !!!
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Just as nice as your Philip II.
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I would like a Tet like that. Good goin Mikey.
     
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  12. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's a nice lookin' tet MZ!
    i don't have any greek tets...out of my ususal price range.
    i'll post my little Ae philip ii,..

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  13. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    I have this one, not a great picture.
    philip tet 1.jpg

    John
     
  14. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Nice capture @Mikey Zee! Here's my tetradrachm of Phillip II.
    Phillip II.png
    Phillip II, Amphiplis mint
    359-336 BC
    AR tetradrachm 14.2gm - 25 mm
    Obv: Laurel head of Zeus r.
    Rev: Naked youth on horse pacing r., holding long palm branch; ΦΙΛΠ -- ΠΟΥ behind and before; with A monogram below horse's belly and race-torch below horse's raised foreleg
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    o o o o...I get to show my new baby... alexx3.jpg
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wowzers, Mikey-Z => that is a very sweet "lifetime" example (congrats)

    Ummm, I also have an example ... but my humble piece was minted a couple of decades later (but it's still one of my favourite coins) ...
    => it's just one of those coins that feels "so awesome" in-hand!! (the dark-toning seems to make the coin "pop")

    Philip II AR tetradrachm
    Date: 336-328 BC
    Diameter: 23.9 mm
    Weight: 14.0 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head of Zeus
    Reverse: Youth on horse, holding palm; club below
    References: Cf. Le Rider 379 (Pella mint)
    Characteristics: Lovely style, deep toning


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    => Oh, and here is another "AE" version from Philip-II


    Philip II AE Unit (Bronze)
    359-336 B.C.
    Diameter: 18mm
    Weight: 6.2 grams
    Obverse: Head of Apollo right
    Reverse: Youth on horse right, FILIPPOU (FILIPPOY?), spear-head in exergue
    Reference: cf Sear 6696-6698

    greena a.jpg greenb a.jpg

    ... congrats again on a very cool lifetime OP-addition, my coin-friend!!

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    Last edited: Apr 16, 2016
  17. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have a couple of Philip II Tets.

    Philip II, Ar Tetradrachm

    Obv:– Laureate head of Zeus right
    Rev:– FILIP-POU, king riding left, wearing kausia and chlamys, raising right hand in salute, erased protome of pegasos below, bow under right foreleg
    Minted in Amphipolis mint. 355 - 348 BC
    Reference:– Le Rider 164 (D75/R135)
    There is a flaw on the reverse running through the body of the rider.
    ex Münzhandlung Ritter GmbH, August 2006; ex Beast Coins; ex Mark Drazak Collection; ex Forvm Ancient Coins.

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    Philip II, Ar Tetradrachm

    Obv:– Laureate head of Zeus right
    Rev:– FILIPPOU, naked youth on horse pacing right on horseback holding palm, stalk of grain under belly, P below foreleg
    Minted in Amphipolis mint.
    Reference:– SNG ANS 667 - 680
    Test cut on reverse.
    14.114g, 24.3mm, 0o

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  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I have one I'm very fond of :)

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    KINGS OF MACEDON, Philip II. 356-336 BCE
    AR tetradrachm. 24mm, 14.20 gm, 12h
    Pella, 342-336 BCE
    Obv: Laureate head of Zeus right
    Rev: ΦIΛIΠ-ΠOY, youth, holding palm and reins, on horseback right, thunderbolt below, N in exergue
    Ref: Le Rider 222-306. SNG ANS 385-95
    ex Colosseo Collection
     
  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    TIF. That one is a gem. I think that every time I see it.
     
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  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Marsha, Marsha, Marsha

    ;)
     
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  21. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    :smuggrin:
     
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