Is this a real silver coin/silver round, or is it garbage?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by PreciousMetalDude, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. PreciousMetalDude

    PreciousMetalDude New Member

    I’m not very knowledgeable about coins.
    I wasn’t paying close attention when I bought this. All I seen was it’s label “Bullion, 1 Troy OZ Coin” and the “ONE TROY OUNCE 999 FINE SILVER” imprint on the backside and for its price I figured I can’t go wrong considering the price of silver.

    Well, come to find out it “looks” like a Sitting Liberty, but can’t be an actual coin considering how both the front and backside look from my understanding unless I’m missing something.

    So my question is, is it a real 1 Troy OZ silver round?

    I don’t have what I’d call a reliable scale at the moment, but the one I do have says it weighs 1.1oz or 31g. Is this a real .999 Fine Silver round or is it garbage?
     

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  3. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Not a real coin.

    According to Wikipedia, the weight is within tolerance for 1.00 troy oz of silver.
     
  4. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    There's not really anyway we can tell by just looking at the round in this case. While there are lots of off brand silver rounds there's also lots of fake silver rounds. Have you tried easy things such as the tissue test, magnet test etc if you don't have an acid test kit?
     
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  5. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    It's a private issue - the weight you gave is correct for
    a 1 oz. silver round -

    Because the piece has been cleaned at one time, the color
    is a bit off. Have you done the 'Ring' test on it to see if
    it 'rings' like silver, or 'thuds' like pot metal or something
    that is not silver?
     
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  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Not sure I've heard of that one.
     
  7. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Set a tissue/Kleenex on top of both a silver coin and a non-silver coin. The silver coin will reflect more light than the non-silver and appear "brighter".

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/141237/

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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Since silver is the most reflective metal, a piece of tissue paper placed over a silver coin will still let the silver color be seen easily while a CuNi or some such will not.
     
  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    @PreciousMetalDude A Troy ounce is what is used to weigh precious metals and it is 31 g while an Avoirdupois ounce is used to weigh cheese. Your 31 g is a Troy ounce. BTW, a Troy pound has 12 ounces while an Av pound has 16 ounces, so while a pound of cheese weighs more than a pound of gold, an ounce of gold weighs more than an ounce of cheese...:) a resounding vote for the Metric System!
     
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  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Well I'll be hornswoggled.

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    Problem is: How would that work with "antiqued" silver?
     
  11. DallasCoinsNThings

    DallasCoinsNThings Numismaniac

    A Troy Ounce weighs 31.1 g. You forgot the 0.1 :bookworm:
     
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  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Meh...close enough for government work...:)
     
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  13. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    Rare earth magnet slide!
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I suppose it could depend on how you are defining antiquated silver, but I have never seen a coin where it did not work. That is of course assuming that the coin in question is not darkly or heavily toned.

    Truly surprised you've never heard if it though, this little trick is even older than me :D
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'm referring to the intentional antiquing of a silver piece, which arguably is what the OP has shown us. I also own a couple of silver pieces with intentional antiquing applied. It was "hot" around 1970. One is from the now-defunct Reading Coin Club and the other honored the Ephrata Cloister, and was done for the also now-defunct Ephrata Coin Club. Both are .999 silver when you GET TO the silver, but there is a "finish" artificially applied to both.

    In a DIFFERENT way, my ANA exhibiting "gold medal" is .999 silver with a gold finish applied.
     
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