Is This 1809 Half Cent Legit?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by AOmonsta, May 31, 2011.

  1. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    Hey there, I just bought this Half Cent and not very experienced with this series or coin collecting in general ( especially identifying errors or fakes).

    Few things that were strange to me: the "L" in LIBERTY looks funny and the date looks rubbed or something.

    Questions: Is it real and what grade would you give it? Also I've noticed this year has like 3 type of punched date, which is this one? Thanks.

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  3. au and ms coins

    au and ms coins Junior Member

    I am leaning toward fake, the rim looks wrong. But dont take my word for it. wait till more knowledgable people chime in.
     
  4. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    IMO, weak details and a porous surface; a cast copy fake perhaps?

    -LTB
     
  5. 5dollarEdunote

    5dollarEdunote Coin Connoisseur

    I'm also leaning towards fake, it doesn't look right...
     
  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd say it's a fake , look at the letters , there fat and mushy . I wouldn't touch it . Look even on a weakly struck genuine coine how the details differ .
     
  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

  8. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    Thanks people, even though I dislike what y'all are telling me haha.

    Hey rzage that pic you posted is of a one cent, does it and the half cent supposed to look alike?
     
  9. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I wouldn't touch it. The color is off (although the white balence could be off in the photo). The surface is granular. Something about the details is not quite right. And the dark stuff around the stars, date and lettering is troubling. (Counterfeiters are known to use dark gunk to hide some of their mistakes.)

    Where did you get the coin or where is the coin beig offered?
     
  10. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    I bought it in an auction. So probably no dice on getting any money back. When I first started this hobby a few months ago, I was told how easy it was to get burnt and guess this may be my first lesson.
     
  11. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I would recommend that you take the coin to a respected dealer. Rather than simply asking, "Is this real?" I would ask, "What do you think of this coin?"
     
  12. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    Here's my 1809 half cent
     

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  13. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    Well I'm in a coin club here in my town, so I may just ask someone there at our next meeting. Also we are having our annual Coin Show this weekend, so that'd be a good opportunity.
     
  14. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Almost every fake 1/2 cent I've seen has problems with the "L", and many look like yours. IMHO, this coin is 100% fake.
     
  15. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    It's definitely a new Chinese counterfeit. I have seen these before.

    Can you return it?
     
  16. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I agree with the other guys monsta, it looks wrong to me too. Sorry!

    Bruce
     
  17. AOmonsta

    AOmonsta New Member

    Hmm I doubt it. You know all them policies they tell you before any auction about no returns. I'm going to ask around first though.
     
  18. ppratt3

    ppratt3 Senior Member

    The hair looks off to me
     
  19. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I know its been said, that it does look like a fake. Here is yours and mine for comparison.
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    1834halfcent.jpg

    Notice some differences in the hair, the shoulder area, and the date. That's just the obverse.

    ALSO: I have been burned in auctions as well (non-ebay). Received counterfit coins. So don't feel too bad. Lesson learned for sure.
     
  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    If it was ebay - you can still return it.
     
  21. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    The 1809 half cent actually has a slightly different design than the 1834 half cent. In all 1809 varieties, the top star on the left side is much closer to the curl above the forehead.

    http://www.coinfacts.com/half_cents/1809_half_cent_varieties/1809_half_cent_varieties.htm
     
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