I was working on sorting through a few groups of coins that just came in the mail. These British ones I thought were very interesting. I couldn't find anything remotely similar to compare them to, but I think they are possibly hand engraved on coin flans. The first one reads "GIVE THY IVDGEMENTS O GOD UN(TO?) and the rest is off flan. The other side reads AN------HTEOVSNESSE UNTO THE KINGS SONN. I am thinking maybe Charles I and Charles II for the portraits based on the time period style? The other looks like Edward VI to me. Both are sixpence size. Has anyone seen something like these before?
I have never seen anything like these. I love the obverse portrait on the first one...it is very artistic.
https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.76319.html Probably Simon de Passe Simon van de Passe German, c. 1595 - 1647 James I, 1566-1625, King of England 1603 [obverse] c. 1625 silver counter, stamped in imitation of engraving overall (diameter): 3 cm (1 3/16 in.) gross weight: 2.15 gr (0.005 lb.) axis: 12:00 Gift of Lisa and Leonard Baskin 1992.55.19.a
Description: Silver Gaming Token, circa 1620, obv. GIVE THY IVDGEMENTS O GOD UNTO THE KING around detailed facing portrait of James I, rev. AND THY RIGHTEOVSNESSE UNTO THE KINGS SONN around facing portrait of Prince Charles; part of a set of 36 by Dutch engraver Simon van de Passe depicting English sovereigns from Edward the Confessor to Charles I; 26mm, ... https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/silver-gaming-token-circa-1620-obv-give-thy-267-c-a70c164955
Thank you! I haven't found the other one yet, but it sounds like Simon van de Passe made a number of different types with British monarchs, so there might be a match for the second one too.
The other one appears to be a token naming William I (or II). It reads: WILLIAM I (or II) KING OF ENGLAND AND DUKE OF NORMANDY. Probably manufactured around the same time as the other one, but a different engraver.
Found it. The William one is also a Simon de Passe. Found a complete set of all 32, it is the bottom row, second from left: http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=139&searchlot=1520&searchtype=2 Funny it says William, the portrait looks a lot like Edward VI.