Indian Cent Odds

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  1. bschmidtbauer

    bschmidtbauer Member

    I was Just curious... What are the odds of finding an indian cent while searching through rolls? Thanks
     
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  3. n_sandler4

    n_sandler4 Paul

    1,000,000:1....naw, I made that up....but it probably isn't too far off :mad:
     
  4. horvath

    horvath New Member

    searching current bank rolls? very, very small ... but it is possible :) i would guess one in a couple of thousand of dollars...
     
  5. YNcoinpro_U.S.

    YNcoinpro_U.S. New Member

    It's probably a little more than 1,000,000:1 if you think of all the memorial cents out there and then all the wheats that are still floating around, and then if you are lucky then you might find one.
     
  6. ajm229

    ajm229 Lincoln Cent Collector

    I don't have my books in front of me, but for anyone who does, here's how to find out:

    [Total mintage of all IHC up to 1909 divided by total mintage of all Lincoln cents 1909 to 2006], which equals the percentage chance of finding an IHC in one roll of cents.

    All told, it's going to be a very low chance.
     
  7. silver surfer

    silver surfer Senior Member

    Not found in a roll,but got a 1887 IHC in change about a year ago.
    First one since the 70's,pure dumb luck i guess.
     
  8. jumpingrat

    jumpingrat Senior Member

    In bank rolls? Probably 1 in 100,000 cents or so but if someone had recently cashed in a jar of coins found in the garage dating from the 60's or so I would think the odds would be better but still a long shot. In circulation I would think the odds would be 1 in 1,000,000 or so. Just guessing of course.
     
  9. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    The funny thing is that a lot of coin shops,mine included,sell G-VG Indian head cents for $1 in a counter basket or bin.I was very excited to find my first wheat cent in change since I was a kid (1947) a couple of days ago until I realized I could buy a nice one for almost nothing.
    I really admire people who search rolls and go out metal detecting,but personally,I don't have the patience.If I lived in England though,I'd be the president of the local detector's club..LOL
     

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  10. bschmidtbauer

    bschmidtbauer Member

    I think my addition is way off... Here is what I got 1804421547/403521259853=.004472
    four out of a thousand would be nice... but It can't be true. (I know this because yesterday I went through over a 2 thousand). :) I suppose you have too keep in mind that I did not have any values for 2003-2006 because I was using an out of date Red Book.
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I think you're more right than these mintages would suggest. One reason might be that more indians are removed from circulation once they're found. Probably due to the fact that they're so easily recognizable and distinguishable, and on both sides, as compared to, say, the wheats, which are only distinguishadle from the lincolns on one side.
     
  12. tsk

    tsk Member

    That only works if all the Lincolns and all the indian head pennies are in circulation. They're not. Indian head pennies are quickly pulled from circulation as are most wheat pennies.

    I believe one of the penny searchers here went through 200k pennies and found 3 indian heads. That should give you some sort of idea.
     
  13. ajm229

    ajm229 Lincoln Cent Collector

    The odds are the odds. If you find a way to calculate how many IHCs and LCs are pulled OUT of circulation, you let me know!
     
  14. horvath

    horvath New Member

    well then you would also have to find a way to figure out the number of lincolns stored in jars, piggy banks, thrown out.....
     
  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    The kindergarten answer to that is what I just said relative to the comparitive recognizability of the indians as compared to the wheats and lincolns. The indians can be recognized as rare coins whether you're looking on the front or the back. As such it stands to reason more of these will be pulled from circulation than wheats which can only be recognized as distinguishable on one side and lincolns which need to be date and mintmark examined in order to know you have a coin worth pulling.
     
  16. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    The indians are disproportionately pulled, that's about all that can be said. Next are the wheats, and last are the lincolns. Quantify that down to the cent? Can't do / impossible.
     
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