Full bands Roosevelt?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Chip Kirkpatrick, Feb 4, 2020.

  1. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

    Is this a Full Bands dime? If so, should I send it in to be certified? 52D4DFBF-22FF-410F-903C-DD4C6C4D5DE6.jpeg 4ADF676A-26C8-4A4A-8D2C-80A882FD2497.jpeg AF6E1593-9EC1-4798-9B61-929D673F31E3.jpeg
     
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  3. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    Dag-nabbit, man, I've got nicer coins in my pocket that are barely worth face value. Add the expense of grading and you've got yourself a 35$ dime worth 10 cents. Bands and all;)

    Edit: unless of course the fingerprint on the obverse is someone famous?
     
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  4. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    It's known as full torch fot the Roosie. For a 2014 it needs to be almost perfect to be worth grading and is not an error.
     
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  5. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    All I see is loops and whorls on all those fingerprints.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No. Bottom bands are damaged and the dime has circulation wear. Spender :(
     
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  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    all I see is an ugly fingerprint
     
  8. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    No, unless Roosevelt nicked his face shaving.
     
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  9. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

    Well once again you can ask a question and not get an answer. I didn’t really ask about shaving, fingerprints or pocket change. I asked if it was a full bands ( or full torch. I believe the term depends upon which grading service you use) or not. Based upon what I read from several sources that it is. THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO THE “EXPERTS”.
    Now while your opinions of it as a coin are occasionally educational and even more rarely entertaining, I asked a simple question. and nothing I read stated that damage would eliminate it as earning that label. So was that statement fact or opinion?

    Really people, if you want we newbies to learn more and maybe contribute more, then maybe less crap and more help will prove beneficial.
     
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  10. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Straight answer: full bands but otherwise a lightly circulated Roosevelt with a lot of dings. The coin is worth it's face value and nothing more. So if you want to pay $30 to get a 10 cent coin certified it's your money.
     
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  11. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    To answer your question; yes, that dime would qualify for a full band label IF it were in the MS range, which yours is not. My question to you is why would you consider sending to a TPG?
    From https://rooseveltdimes.net/full-torch-or-full-bands-roosevelt-dime/
    "The major third party grading companies will indicate “FB” or “FT” in addition to the numerical grade for mint state coins which meet certain qualifications."
     
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  12. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    @Chip Kirkpatrick ...first, I see your question has been answered, second, I offer congrats to you on your forum anniversary 2 days from now.

    In the past year, you should have read many posts that indicate general rules to sending coins in to TPGs, the number one rule being a coin having a worth of at least 150 to 200 dollars value to substantiate the cost of grading.

    Did you think a 2014-D dime with full bands came close to those parameters?

    As revealed by several members but best by @Mountain Man the coin is not MS so does not qualify for the full band/full torch attribution...Spark
     
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  13. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

    quite frankly I had no idea what it’s potential value was. That’s why I asked the question. Also, I have not seen anything in researching a full band dime that even suggests that a coin must be MS to qualify for the label. Nor that a coin must have a value of $150+ to substantiate the cost of grading. And since I have little interest in selling my coins, I fail to understand why anyone should care if I decide to spend the money to do so. I might simply like the idea of having a graded coin.

    now I’m not trying to be insulting, I’m only asking a question which obviously I did not have the answer to. Which is simply is that a full band dime. It appears to me, to be one. A simple yes or no would suffice. But there are too many respondents on this forum who seem to enjoy flouting their knowledge by insulting the people who are trying to learn something. I know you are flooded with people who erroneously think they can retire because they found an odd looking coin which had little to no value. I simply am trying to siphon off a bit of your knowledge but there can be a very slight difference between the trash and the treasure. I still have no idea the differences between cracks, breaks, strike throughs and scratches. They basically look the same to me. But learning some of the lessons that can be learned from this site can be very very unnecessarily challenging
     
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  14. Woodman60

    Woodman60 Mercury Dimes Franklin Halves

    Paddyman gave you a simple NO answer and we are all trying to help.
     
  15. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I'm sorry but you did get the answers but didn't like some of the light hearted comments. In no way were any of the comments intended to be personal insults to you. Your question had two parts: was it full bands and would it be worthwhile to send it in for grading. From the comments received it should be obvious that it isn't worth getting it slabbed. As far as full bands, yes, but even if it was full bands it wouldn't get that designation by NGC or PCGS due to it's circulation; it's not an MS coin.
     
  16. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    And I gave you your answer but obviously you didn't like it. We here attempt to try and save newbies from spending money when it isn't necessary. If you like the coin, put it in an airtight or other capsule and keep it.
     
  17. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Chip, Sometimes matter-of-fact answers here on the forum can be construed as insulting, but are, in fact, just unadorned truth.

    No one was trying to insult you...Spark
     
  18. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    Dang, and that was the PC version of my response;) I apologise for creating a stir and that the snark blinded you to the answer/s right after it. In my defense, it's very difficult to accurately communicate in the digital age: The smiley face was supposed to convey my good intentions, whereas, had I used the head-slamming-into-a-wall emoji, that would have been rude.:0)
    One of my first threads on here was "where can I acquire rolls of Morgan dollars?", which provoked hilarity and embarrassing rebuke and saved me literally thousands of dollars.
    Learning coin collecting on the internet is much like learning French in France; you're the butt of every joke until you can defend yourself. In this case, coin collecting, you need to defend yourself against unnecessary spending and the frauds that are out there. Prior research is your shield. Good luck!
     
  19. johnyb

    johnyb Member

    As a "larrikin" Aussie,I love the good humoured banter of the members here. It makes my learning about your coinage even more enjoyable.
     
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  20. steve westermeier

    steve westermeier Cancer sucks!

    Just a little humor, I see no real harm!
     
  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Several members gave you the answers you ask for from the start. Read between the humor. They are there.
     
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