First Purchase - Tyre Shekel - Is it Real?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Rick1350, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. Rick1350

    Rick1350 New Member

    Hello everyone and happy new year!
    This is my first post here at Coin Talk. Back in September, my wife and I took a trip to Israel. While there, I bought this silver shekel. After getting back home, I found out the store I bought it at has a terrible rating on Trip Adviser. Now, I'm having doubts to its authenticity. I'd love to get your opinions. I had it weighed and it came to 13.2 grams.
    What do you look for to determine if its real or a fake?

    I also bought a Roman coin which I'll discuss in a different post.

    Thank for your comments in advance.

    Rick
     

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  3. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Usually, expensive rare coins are more likely to be counterfeited.
     
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  4. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Technically it's a shekel from Tyre but yours is not a temple tax coin. Shekels have Melquart on the obverse with a similar reverse. However the legend would be ΤΥΡΟΥ ΙΕΡΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΑΣΥΛΟΥ (of Tyre the holy and inviolable). Yours has BAΣIΛEΩΣ (King) but I can't make out which one (would be on the left side, off flan) but probably Demetrios.

    It would be more accurate to call it a tetradrachm minted in Tyre.

    Similar to this one, but different control and year Marks

    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6509099
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2020
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have a coin with a similar reverse from Tyre:
    Ptolemy II.png
    PTOLEMY II PHILADELPHOS
    AR Tetradrachm
    OBVERSE: Diademed head of Ptolemy II right, wearing aegis around neck
    REVERSE: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ [ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ], eagle standing left on thunderbolt, to left, club surmounted by Tyre monogram
    Tyre 285-260 BC
    25 mm., 14.14 grams
    Svoronos 644; SNG Copenhagen 482-3
    ex. JAZ Numismatics
     
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  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ,,,why are you using the same spcheal on these coins in different threads??....
     
  7. Factor

    Factor Well-Known Member

    Looks real, as far as I can tell from these pictures. Jay GT4 is right, it is not 'biblical' autonomous issue, but earlier Seleucid, typically they go for $150 - $200 in this condition on ebay.
     
  8. Rick1350

    Rick1350 New Member

    Please forgive my lack of knowledge, but what is "spcheal"?
    I posted the two coins separately to help avoid confusion when talking about them.
    Once I know what "spcheal" is, I'll try to avoid it the next time I post.

    Rick
     
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  9. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    I assume that @ominus1 meant "shpiel", a Yiddish word coming from German "Spiel" (game, play, match) and frequently used to describe a sales pitch or other type of (sometimes fraudulently) persuasive speech or performance.

    We unfortunately sometimes see trolls in this forum who, for example, post fake coins, often in connection with some adventurous story. The motive behind this presumably is either getting attention or testing whether their forgeries are convincing. Some forum members therefore react a bit cautiously when new members post authenticity questions. Certainly, no offense was meant.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2020
  10. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...what he said...
     
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  11. Rick1350

    Rick1350 New Member

    Oh, ok. No offense taken. Thanks for the feedback.
     
  12. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    You have a tetradrachm of Antiochus VII, Tyre mint, Year 187 (136/5 BC).

    it’s not a shekel of Tyre.

    Barry Murphy
     
  13. Rick1350

    Rick1350 New Member

    Thank you Barry.
     
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