EXTREMELY RARE HALF GOLD HALF SILVER ERROR COIN! WHATS IT WORTH?

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  1. beatsbyave

    beatsbyave New Member

    i live in pennsylvania and im an amateur coin collecter. theres a local coin shop i go to often and find incredibly rare pieces coming from both the mint in philadelphia and the franklin mint as well. i have a nice collection gathered so far. today i bought a piece that struck my eye. i would like some information on it if anybody can help me please. i do not have a picture or camera to show u guys, so ill provide any information possible.

    the coin is a walking liberty half dollar minted in philadelphia, the date is 1943, the dealer sold it to me for the silvers value of $10, but the coin is not only silver. the coin is 90% fine gold and 10% silver. the front of the coin with the walking liberty is pure gold, the backside with the eagle is pure silver. the coin is in mint condition, fine details, perfect appeal, not a scratch or mark on it. from the side view of the coin it is 90% gold, and the backside is the 10% of silver from the side view of the coin.

    can anybody determine the value of this coin? it is not a fake, ive had several pcgs, anacs, and ngc certified dealers take a look at it and they all agree its genuine and was really minted that way.

    what appeals to me is the fact that 1943 was the notorious date that the steel penny was introduced due to a shortage of copper being used for ww2. so finding a copper penny from 1943 can bring in big bucks because it was not supposed to be minted that year.

    is finding a gold and silver coin rare due to that same ww2 shortage on 1943? besides the fact that it was minted in 2 precious metals together on a walking liberty half.

    i know i will have to get it graded soon, but what do u guys think? what could the value possibly be? im very curious!

    i have several other coins that im curious about the value of as well... can anybody help me?...

    liberty V nickle 1883 P with "no cents" error on back, mint conidition, no scratches, perfect condition like new

    an encased set of 1943 Steel Pennies, all mint coniditon uncirculated, hasnt been removed from case for over 20 years. the set includes 1 penny from Philadelphia mint, 1 from Denver mint, and 1 from San Francisco mint. all the pennies are in perfect mint condition, no scratches, nice as shiny, no rust or ware, uncirculated.

    a 1943 P Mercury Dime in perfect condition

    i also put together my own little set of wheat pennies in a case that includes 1941 P, 1941 S, 1942 D, 1943 P (steel), 1943 D (steel), 1943 S (steel), 1944 D (copper), 1944 S (copper), also in the set i included a Canadian 1 Cent copper from 1939 and a Great Britian Large One Penny cent dated 1944. everything in that set that i put together is in mint conidition, uncirculated, no scratches or nicks, and very appealing.

    a 1883 P Morgan Silver Dollar with the VAM10 Sextuple Stars Error (stars have doubling when looked at closely and date is widened on the numbers 188, but 3 is almost normal) the condition of this coin is fine to very fine. very good details, no scratches or ware, no toning, but not mint condition

    can anybody tell me the possible value of everything that i listed? i know i have to get it appraised soon, but im just curious about how much everything could possibly be worth.

    thank you all very much for ur time!
     
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  3. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Waiting for the experts to chime in, but I can't imagine how a half silver, half gold coin would come from the U.S. Mint.

    Before anyone gives you any ideas on price, they're gonna wanna see decent pictures.

    Edit: again, I will defer to the experts, but I do not believe that the 1883 P Liberty Nickel without the "cents" on the back is considered an error.
     
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  4. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    You just bought it today and already "had several pcgs, anacs, and ngc certified dealers take a look at it and they all agree its genuine and was really minted that way."? A lot to do since East Coast businesses haven't even opened their doors at 08:28 AM EST
     
  5. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I think someone painted a Walking Liberty but forgot to turn it over and finish the job. 1883 "NO CENTS" nickels are not an error, it was minted that way to fit in with other circulating coinage of the time. Only after people started trying to pass them off as gold did the mint add the word "CENTS."

    It's hard enough determining value of a collection with pictures let alone without. Your best bet is to research completed auction listings or maybe just ask your local coin store what it's all worth since you don't have a camera.
     
  6. deacon2828

    deacon2828 Active Member

    Oh boy ?? !!
     
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  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    +1 exactly what I thought

    "the coin is a walking liberty half dollar minted in philadelphia, the date is 1943, the dealer sold it to me for the silvers value of $10, but the coin is not only silver. the coin is 90% fine gold and 10% silver. "
    Do you really think that coin consists of 90% gold? I think hat coin is likely gold plated if it's even real gold.
     
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  8. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Without pictures, this thread is useless.
    I can emphatically say that I agree with the other answers given.

    I'll add 'TROLL?'
     
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  9. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    it is not a fake, ive had several pcgs, anacs, and ngc certified dealers take a look at it and they all agree its genuine and was really minted that way.

    Must be true then, sell it for millions.
     
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  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Yes, genuine.

    Minted that way?

    Probably not.

    Most likely toning.

    Think: If it were legit, why would the first dealer have sold it to you for silver melt.

    Or perhaps you are just a troll.
     
  11. robert1996

    robert1996 robert1960

    What coin store did you buy this from???
     
  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Another problem with a half silver, half gold WL half, (besides the fact there are none other known, and the US mint has never struck a coin like that, and there is no US gold denomination of the same size of a WL half), would be we struck the last US gold coin in 1933, with gold being outlawed. Yes we struck a few oddball things like Saudi oil gold, but that was a touch later I believe.

    One thing that might make us believe the story more OP would be the weight. How much does this weigh? If its simply gold plated it should be close to a normal coin, if its truly 90% gold it should weigh dramatically more than normal.
     
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  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I was going to try to answer your comments, one by one, but decided it would be futile.

    You need to buy a Guide Book of United States Coins (aka Red Book) before you start blowing your money on anything else.

    Chris
     
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  14. jfreakofkorn

    jfreakofkorn Well-Known Member

  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    If you just bought it for $10 today and the dealer said it was silver value...you got hosed my friend.

    From coinflation about 30 seconds ago...
    [​IMG] 1916-1947 Half Dollar
    $0.50
    $5.9860
    1197.21%
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    While the other guys have already addressed the most obvious issues with your claims, and with the full understanding that "dealer" does not necessarily mean "expert", may I ask why you think that you, an admitted novice, can so easily walk into the shop of someone who not only does this every day, but likely supports themselves or their family by possessing sufficient of this business, and simply walk away with such a (impossible) "discovery"?
     
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  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Yep! I think Rick hit the nail on the head. It's just too bad that the hammer didn't hit this POS, first.

    Chris
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I suspect that it was produced by a private mint, maybe even the Franklin mint, and it may possibly be silver and has gold electroplated over the 90 % silver coin on the other side to produce the gold appearance. The gold may be 90% but only microns thick. Plated real coins are often found on ebay and other markets, such as popular bullion websites, but they are minted as novelties rather as coins. It would be extremely difficult to prepare such bimetallic blanks to mint, and the US mint certainly did not do so in 1943. It is probably an interesting piece in hand, but I think it was sold at a fair price and that is about all it is worth. Sorry, no disrespect intended. Jim
     
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  19. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I'm just subscribing to this thread for entertainment.
     
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  20. deacon2828

    deacon2828 Active Member

    1+
     
  21. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Most likely a genuine 1943 half dollar that was altered after it left the mint, or as desertgem suggested, a privately minted piece. The 1883 without cents nickel is quite common, but an interesting piece of numismatic history. The steel cents are quite often reprocessed, making them bright and shiny but actually hurts collector value. The steel cents are a great collectable from the war years and make a nice set. Sounds like a good start to a nice collection.
     
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