Elizabeth 1 six pence consensus???

I have seen several Elizabeth 1 six pence coins and they all have been
(24.6-26.2mm) in size compared to this particular one, this coin seems to
be the size of the standard three pence coin...? the first time I touched
it, it just felt to thick, and to shiny, compared to others I have held....
Based on what I have read on this link: https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins.pl?coin=10400
These are the standard weights for each denomination of Elizabeth coins:
PENNY: 0.5 gram
THREEHALFPENCE: 0.75 g
HALF GROAT: 1.0 g
THREEPENCE: 1.5 g
GROAT: 2 g
SIXPENCE: 3 g
SHILLING: 6 g
HALF CROWN: 15 g
CROWN: 30 g

So, judging by weight & size, I realize steel is heavier than Silver... My Question & point: "Is this coin a modern novelty fake???"

 

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I missed where you said anything about checking it with a magnet.

 

Yes, thank you for the reminder, I do have one of those extra strong magnets
and there is no attraction what so ever, so not steel...
however I understand most fakes are not made of steel but a mixture of inexpensive
metals in order to replicate silver, or just plated, this coin is quite shiny, certainly very clean, it's just thicker than I'm used to seeing, most people that deal in Tudor coins know they are usually very thin, and could easily be bent, mostly from wear, I would not be afraid of bending this coin except with a hammer... This coin in nice shape, but it is no larger than a normal 3 pence, to me it looks like a mini 6 pence???? is that even possible??

Were there any smaller coins made that resemble 6 pence coins?

 

The threepence (S-2565) is about 18 mm, but much lighter. This looks like a faithful copy of that coin, down to the correct mint mark. The other thing on yours is the small counterstamp left of the shield which may have been copied from another coin. If yours weighs 2.4 g, I imagine its thickness was one of the first things you noticed.

One of my "impulse buys" that I have no regrets about is this Elizabeth I sixpence. I think it's my first 16th century purchase.

 

My own Elizabeth I sixpence -- standard diameter and weight.

England, Elizabeth I, AR Sixpence 1582. Obv. Crowned Bust left, Tudor Rose behind, all within inner circle with legend around, ELIZAB.D.G.ANG.FR.ET.HIB.REGINA [Elizabeth by the Grace of God Queen of England France and Ireland] / Rev. Quartered shield over long cross fourchée with divided date above, all within inner circle with legend around, Mintmark Sword at 12 o'clock, POSVI DEV.AD IVTORE M·MEV· [I have made God my helper] 15 - 82. Spink 2572 (ill.). 25 mm., 3.2 g.

 

This is a milled example from 1562 for comparison. With the OP's example I am concerned about the granular surface of the piece - it almost appears as though it was cast in some sort of white metal, perhaps tin?

 

Lizzy


England - Elizabeth I - 1558-1603 AR Shilling



England - Elizabeth I 1558-1603 AR Sixpence 3rd-4th issue crescent mintmark




England Elizabeth I AR 3-Pence 1566 Her bust l rose shield 19 mm G

 

My Lizzy 6pence is 26,3 mm and 2,99 gr



Q

 

My only EI 3d weighs 1.4g and suffers from doublestriking. What is that in the upper left reverse field? Could it be the initial of the replica maker?

 

Yes, I believe dougsmit is correct - the stamp in the upper left reverse field is the sign of the replica maker. Although the photo on the listing is of poor quality, I believe it is a match to this reproduction coin available on ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Replica-...463017?hash=item56f446b8e9:g:3o8AAOSwEphgLkzb

 

By golly I think you have found it, I do wish they showed more detailed photos
but I guess I will have to purchase one to make an exact ID...
However from what I can see all the aspects on the reverse look as though they
could match up well! Thank you for this confirming piece of evidence!

 

All the aspects of this reproduction match up as well as we can see here, I guess
short of purchasing one of these repo's this is quite compelling evidence...!
Thank you for finding this example!

 

No problem! Glad I could help