Ebay seller's remorse ?

On Sept. 7, I was the high bidder on a MS63 2.5 Ind. The seller provided me with a USPS tracking #s the next day, then after 4 days goes by I noticed that the package haven't been scanned by the USPS yet, so I mailed the seller on Sat. Sep. 12, he said...he mailed the coin on Sep 8. Then on Mon. Sep. 14 he went to the post office and he said... the post office told him that it will be deliver today Mon. Sep 14.

I knew he was B.Sing!...I mean, how would the USPS knew where the package was when it was never scanned?.. of course the package never did show up at my door. He refunded my money today. I think he had seller's remorse and never did mailed the coin.

 

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I once won a proof shield nickel that was pcgs cameo for non cameo money and the guy told me he lost it.

 

But I didn't steal the coin. I paid a fair price.

 

Wait did he just give you a refund out of the blue or did you ask for it? Because if not you should make a claim or contact him saying you'll leave negative feedback.

 

I would talk to ebay customer service and see what they recommend. If the guy is a "top seller" he deserves to lose it for this level of dishonesty through negative feedback. If he did it to you he probably did it to others.

 

Don't feel too bad, I've had it happen to me. After several inquiries I had a refund posted; and now I can no longer correspond or even bid on his items. His loss not mine believe me.

 

Eh, maybe he screwed up. Life happens. Maybe his wife sold the thing not knowing it was on Ebay, maybe he meant to mail it and by the time he remembered it was too embarrassing to admit he made a mistake so he just refunded the money. A deal is a not a deal until its done. Life is too short, and there are too many coins available, to stress about it. Move on and buy another.

 

This. Ebay won't care, anyway.

 

I asked for a refund. I have never posted a negative feedback on any seller before.

 

Sounds to me he wanted to sell the coin but didn't get the price it wanted, therefore he came up with this scheme. Always ask for a tracking number so you know it's been mailed and you can track it as well as the seller.

 

You're just guessing about his actions and his "scheme". The OP did get a tracking number. The buyer got his money back, so no harm done, except for a little frustration. Like someone said - move on and enjoy life . . . . What did the seller do to deserve negative feedback? Everyone is guessing the seller had bad intentions with no proof.

 

Welcome to CoinTalk.

 

I agree with Del. I've shipped items through the USPS with a USPS label I printed through eBay and delivered it personally to the Post Office and the item never got scanned until it was delivered. Yesterday's eBay webinar discussed this very issue. The item could have been stolen and the seller refunded the cost to the buyer and then filed an insurance claim or missing item claim with the postal service. Either way, the buyer would not be involved in this. It takes a lot for a seller to obtain top rated status, which provides a 20% discount on final value fees from eBay. Sellers are very concerned about losing this status. I check the status of items I've posted to make sure the tracking is being recorded. If tracking isn't showing up, I contact the buyer to let them know I did deliver it to the post office and ask them to contact me if they don't receive it within a week so I can take appropriate action.

I searched eBay for sold MS 63 2.5 Gold Eagles during the time-frame you mentioned and didn't see anything matching your description. Was this transaction through a different selling service?

 

I also agree that there is little proof that the seller was trying to pull one over on you. As frustrating as it probably was, Ebay customer service probably wouldn't address this issue unless the seller refused to issue you a refund. Then you would have a real case on your hands.

But I don't blame you for your suspicion, especially around Ebay. At least once I've received a coin from an Ebay seller that was obviously not the coin pictured in the auction (it was at least 2 grades down from the photo). But it was so cheap and I had so many other things going on in my life at the time that I didn't follow up on it. I should have, because it gave the seller confidence to repeat this slimy action. Every time I look at the coin today I regret it, but at least it only involved a small amount of money. But caution or suspicion on Ebay is never wasted energy if something doesn't feel right.

 

This is against eBay policy. You're not allowed to manipulate by threatening negative feedback.

@Del Ihle and @medoraman nailed this one

It sucks, as usual a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. I've had this exact thing happen to me as a seller. I wouldn't want to be though of as dishonest or scheming.

 

I sold a 1908s NGC MS64BR to someone for $350, well under the value. He wanted to return it as it had a very small dark spot on the reverse that he claimed didn't show in the pictures. It had been graded a few weeks before that, so the grading accounted for the spot. I chose to allow the return. Taking very fine pictures and pointing out any flaws is clearly important, even when the coin has been graded.

 

One time a couple years back, I actually stood in line at the USPS, got tracking # on a receipt "handed to me" and days later nothing showed up on the item I sold. About 4-5 days later, with only an "acceptance" scan showing, I walked over there again, asking where the package is. They found it, apologized for everything. It scanned out of state the same evening.

I know some sellers print their shipping labels and get an automatic tracking # generated, but I don't have a working printer to use at home so in my case that's impossible. All things I sell get walked over to my local USPS, and I stand in line like a good citizen.

Anyway, my point is, how do we know what really happened here? Sometimes the postal services occasionally "eff up", and may not have anything to do with the seller. After packages get into their hands, it is beyond the sellers control how packages are being handled, or how long they take to reach their destination. Even if you go the extra mile and purchase signature confirmation or insurance, things can still go wrong.

I recall early last year, I shipped a priority mail flat rate box, being sent to an address no further than 800-900 miles away (literally 2 states away), and it took 10 business days to get there. A postal employee probably lost the damn thing somewhere in the middle, and only after sending them 2 emails did the tracking finally update. From OR to AZ, should take no more than 2 days normally. I've gotten stuff from New York delivered to my house in typically 3 business days. Sometimes 2.

I am curious how you came to that conclusion.

 

I sold on Ebay like everyone else. Never had remorse because i never sold anything personal to me. The problem lies if the guy continues to sell items and does it quite a bit, if he never gets a negative feedback, then he may continue.
i agree nothing fast was TRYING to be pulled, BUT ! he may have got a 20$ higher offer via email and took it. It is not right and he needs a spanking !

 

If there is never any justice when doing something wrong, one will or may continue doing it. Not comparing it to a bank robbery. This especially makes it easier on your mind, "it is no big deal" thus "it is no big deal if I do it again"

 

I had the post office lose $400 in gold jewelry (which I should have insured - shame on me) and then the buyer leave NASTY feedback and send repeated insults, as if I had kicked her dog and insulted her heritage.

Jumping to negative conclusions about good sellers that have things happen where you haven't incurred any losses is petty and vindictive. I lost my perfect feedback reputation for a year, lost $400 in gold and still looked like the bad guy that ruined someone else's life. The only one that lost something was me, and to incur insults and accusations is beyond the realm of good manners.

In blunt terms, if you got a refund - get over it. You incurred no loss, spent a bit of time and missed out on a great deal. Most sellers are like me, it's a hobby business. If you want retail service - pay retail prices and quit being a cheapskate.

I'm not Home Depot where I can just pull another off the shelf and pass along the cost to the shareholders.