I posted this in the "Wanted" section a few days back: Today, I got an email from Rick Irons advertising the sale of his entire collection. Needless to say, in private treaty with Mr. Irons, I have arranged the purchase of the 46th Reg Ohio Vol USA 5C Sutler from his collection, which is from both Schenkman's and Tanenbaum's collections, and is the 2ed Plate coin. Although the Howell Sutler Set is only three coins, they are all quite rare, and I'm amazed to have put them together. My 10C is from John J. Ford, Jr's collection by way of Steve Hayden, and my 25C is from Raymond Bunt, Jr's collection also by way of Rick Irons. All are R-8/9 coins with extremely limited known examples. I'm having a glass of whiskey tonight.
As a side note, if you are a Sutler collector or interested in them, Rick is selling his complete personal collection. These are the best of the best, many with amazing ownership histories, and have been off the market for some time. This is a great opportunity to own/upgrade these rare tokens.
Did you have a photo of one or all of these so called: sutler tokens. I've heard of them, but have no idea what they look like. I'm sure I'm not the only one either
You're not getting any love here! No clue what you have but I am glad you're happy and hope you enjoy the whiskey!
I had to look it up, I like it. This is not the exact token but I get the idea. Well done! http://www.tokenarchive.com/auction...-46th-reg-ohio-vol-u-s-a-ngc-vf35-oh-r10b-r9/
So...... I've owned store cards before, from Ohio,from the civil war era. What is the difference? Were these manufactured by sutler? Or was there another reason for the name???
Sutler tokens were issued by US Army Sutlers to be used as change or exchange among a specific regiment in the Civil War. They are very similar to store cards, but are much more difficult to find. I'll get some pics up soon.
Aaaaaaah, I see clearly now.... That is very interesting, and ofcourse now, I want one and know who to pm if I ever find one. Excellent score, your excellency!!
Well done on your set completion! Sutlers are something I've really wanted to get into except they're just SO expensive!
As promised, here are some pictures of the 5C and 25C tokens. I don't have the 10C imaged yet. Gives you an idea what they look like.
I'm going to resurrect this old thread, just because now all three of the tokens in the set live in PCGS plastic with TrueViews. Again, I am thrilled to have this set complete, although I will be on the hunt for an upgrade for the 25c example (there are maybe 3 more, so pickings are slim...).
I have absolutely no idea what these are or why they are significant. Perhaps you could share with us a bit of their story? What are they? Why were they created? What were they used for? What are the challenges with collecting them today?
These are sutler tokens, a subset of the Civil War token genre. A sutler was a civilian merchant that followed the regiments around during the war to provide supplies. Since specie was scarce, particularly in small denominations, many had these stuck for use at their tent. Some also used cardboard scrip. They are incredibly scarce - most exist in single digit quantities, and examples change hands rarely. I'd wager that this is one of maybe two complete sets for the 46th Ohio held in collection (the 10c and 25c are R.9 with a population of 2-4 surviving). The Ohio 46th was mustered in Central Ohio and Colonel Thomas Worthington led them into battle - the namesake of a Columbus suburb.
