Coin Weight Tolerance

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by bravoducci, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. bravoducci

    bravoducci New Member

    Hi Guys,

    As of December I've been reading up a lot online and bought myself a couple books on US Coins. I decided to start with the Mercury Dime. I got myself a 10X Mag and a Scale. So, I decided to make my first big purchase this weekend and got a 1921 on Ebay. The seller has almost 7000 sales and is 100% approval. I weighed the coin and it checked in at 2.35g. The coin looks and sounds ok. The date is a little questionable. So my question is (which I cant find online), what is the tolerance for weight? 2.35 seems awful low. Thanks in advance! And please go easy on me because I'm new and trying to figure this all out!

    -John

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  3. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    There is a great article here that discusses "Wear" and in post number 14 there is a chart that shows the variance in weight between different grades of wheat pennies. It would also be applicable to other coins such as merc dimes.

    http://www.cointalk.com/t131094/
     
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  4. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Weight tolerance of mercury dime is 2.5 grams +/- 0.097 grams.
     
  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's at time of manufacture, right?

    By that figure, the OP's coin is less than 3% below tolerance. Based on the observations in the other thread, it's believable.

    I ordered two high-resolution scales, one 300g x 10mg, the other 30g x 1mg, in early December. But I ordered them from a Chinese eBay seller, and I think they're never going to arrive. If I ever see them, I intend to do some extensive weight-vs-wear analysis -- and my best sample population, in terms of size and range of wear, is definitely Mercury dimes. You can be sure I'll post here if I can get anything together.
     
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  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Yes, that is the mint production weight tolerances for Mercury dimes from Breen's Encyclopedia.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I suspect that the reason this coin is low is because it has suffered corrosion from being in the ground. That will cause any coin to loose weight.

    To have a better general understanding of weight loss read here - post #18

    http://www.cointalk.com/t66241/
     
  8. bravoducci

    bravoducci New Member

    so... from what i get, weighing is only really good for coins that are in top condition. if the coin in worn, weighing will be off and then, who knows! The dime seems real. it does feel a bit thinner and worn. I'm thinking about bringing it to the coin show this weekend and maybe having a dealer take a look if i get a little friendly with one. not sure if that's against the etiquette.

    any advice on my situation? or the next step you would take. the coin sounds real. color is ok. not weighing in properly... just not sure where to go with this. my other 1920's dimes are weighing in around the same so it must be a worn thing. .15 seems like a lot tho

    with all the fakes out there, it would be a bummer saving this coin and come to find out 20 years from now its a "fugazi".

    thanks for the replies guys!
     
  9. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    Ohhh yeaaa circulated coins that start to get into the EF45 and less start to go on a diet...
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I have no doubt your coin is genuine, it's just a problem coin due to the corrosion.
     
  11. bravoducci

    bravoducci New Member

    thanks guys... that pretty much sums it up!
     
  12. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I purchased a 1921 mercury dime at a coin show in 2008. I consider the dime about G-4. It weighs in at 2.33-grams. Based on this one data point, your 2.35-grams seems like the right ball park for a worn merc.
     
  13. Justin Stephens

    Justin Stephens New Member

    I have a 1979 dime that weighs 2.42 grams any ideas on why it’s outside the tolerance zone..And yes I have triple checked other coins to make sure the scale is reading correctly
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The spec weight for a '79 dime is 2.268 gm, and it has a tolerance range of +/- 0.091 gm meaning coins between 2.359 gm and 2.177 gm are within mint tolerance levels.

    That means your coin is 0.061 gm too heavy.


    These specs are confirmed here -

    Tolerance levels for US coins.jpg


    As for your question, there are two possible reasons for the coin to weigh heavy.

    1 - you said you verified your scale by weighing other coins. Well that might work and it might not because with the over-weight of your coin being so small, 0.061 gm - a difference like that might be explained by the tolerance levels of the other coins you weighed. And since we don't know what those specific weights of the other coins were, that can't be judged. What you need to do is to calibrate your scale by using a calibration weight, only then can you know with certainty that your scale is measuring accurately. Until you do that, you can't know with certainty that your coin is too heavy.

    2 - it's possible your dime was minted on a planchet error, a thick planchet in other words, a heavy planchet. They are uncommon but they do occur now and then.
     
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  15. Justin Stephens

    Justin Stephens New Member

    Thanks for the response and I weighed a handful of nickels and a handful of other dimes the same year and surrounding years and all are weighing correctly and then that one keeps coming up the same every time.
     
  16. Justin Stephens

    Justin Stephens New Member

    Also I checked the thickness and width and compared it to the same years and surrounding years and it’s the same as well
     
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  17. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I enjoyed the lesson guys, thanks. Great post question.
     
  18. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Blanks are punched from clad strips which are rolled to a specified thickness. If the strip is a little thicker/thinner, or if there are variations within the strip, the blanks may weigh outside the tolerance.

    While technically, it is out of tolerance and is considered an error, 0.06 grams is not enough to add any value or significant interest. Nothing wrong with putting it in a 2x2 if you like it, however.
     
  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    You have posted this in three different threads, none of which you started. I am glad you got your answer, but please learn how to start your own thread from the "forums" tab at the top. Pick a forum, click "start new thread" and go from there. Post pictures full size. Welcome to the forum.
     
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  20. Tamaracian

    Tamaracian 12+ Yr Member--Supporter

    A 1921 Mercury Dime was not made from a Clad Strip.
     
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  21. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Absolutely correct.

    However, if you look at post #12, a new member jumped in yesterday to this 11 year old thread and had a question regarding a 1979 dime. Last I checked, that dime was blanked from clad strip.
     
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