I have a few 2020,21 and 22 pennies that have a little clip on the edge of the coins. Not in a consistent spot. The clips are only on the edge, they do not extend past the rim. What are they called and are they worth anything? I tried to get a picture but found that too hard to do with my limited photography skills.
Coins are never actually clipped at anytime. The are Incomplete planchets. Sounds like you may have a bit of damage to the edge on your coins.
For those years it is imposible to have Clip Coins. Learn the Mint process an the V4 Shuller line of production. Do not go by stupid You toubers less then beginers (scammers).
Just wanted to welcome you to CT. You definitely know your errors and the minting process. Glad to have you aboard the CT train. Phil C
Thank you. appreciate this and give me heat in my heart. In the same time because I spook with JP Martin about the new trend to say Incomplete planchets, I can say that this terminology it is improper use and it is to vaste to use. Improper planchet coud be clip planchet, high differencial palnchet, improper milled blanc, exfoliated blancs or planchets, on cents plating defaults and etc, by different denomination. For this reason this term will never be included in the lexique because it is to large and better is to describe each anomalie separated. Thanks again for warm Welcome and hope to help direct proportional with my logic and knowleadge.
I don't agree with you but you're entitled to your own opinion. I will stick to Incomplete Planchet because it makes total sense to many error collectors. I hope I didn't make your heart feel cold again.
Here it a planchet that has a true clip, this planchet was misfed into the coining chamber and got clipped by/in between the hammer die and a stiff collar die. https://www.error-ref.com/elliptical-strike-clips/ The ultimate expression of a stiff collar error is an elliptical strike clip.
Make sense I agree. do it is pointed??? No. As it is LAM, nonsense. Lam come from lamination which it is :"union of different materials by specific proceders". Many denominations in the colleting are prejorative to hobby, but are emplyed and we understand them. The new collectors will not. Incomplet planchet denomination it is one of them and touch so manny different errors and it is today use just by the old fasion dealers. Old vocabulary it is OK for those who knows this one, but those users must accept the reality and the change. I wrote here in one of my post about the Smith effect on clip planchet. I had no answer. Why?? Because we are confortable been low profile. I like to see debate and achieve a real conclusion.
Yes I know about those and understand how they occur. Those are very rare. But the most of Attributed so called 'Curved Clipped planchet' are actually incomplete planchets.
By your own mean. This term it is to day employ just by the dealers who wont to catch the buyer like the fishing. This term was debated by the biggerst experts, and never was approuve. I do not state here which was, but some past away (RIP), other still be here. I debate with them and the concensus was it is incorrect but not for defineted denomination. If you want to stand against Stan (RIP), Herb(RIP). Ken, Wex, Mike D., JP Martin, K Flynn, Fred and etc. please welcome in the club. Also Daniel Malone it is on this street. If you want more name I can give you. Tell me what it is the difference between clip plachet where is missing planchet part and the foliated planchet (as you say improprely Lam) where is missing material in your vision of Incomplet Planchet??? Tell me and I will UP this topic to discussions with above mentioned persons. Sorry but I am a strait person. If you are an expert as you say, you have to understad my point.
this it is a rare error. I do not know how Mike say on error ref, but I can state this is rare. They are many factors to determinate the authenticy, This coin must be see in hand. I suggest you to contact Mike Diamond for this. I never see see one till now on zinc plated. PM for future help. Me I take coins for forensic and restorations.
Why do you keep saying that? I have never mentioned anything about 'improperly lam", what the heck does that mean? Sorry buddy. I don't need you to talk to anyone. I will keep it as Incomplete Planchet as I always have for the past 38 years. I will contact Fred Weinberg and some other well-known mint error specialists myself and speak to them on the subject. Yes, I know Fred.
I was always taught it was an incomplete planchet. However I was also taught there are several types of incomplete planchets. The most common is the curved clip but there is also a straight clip and a ragged clip. Each defined what type of incomplete planchet you have.
