chinese fatman dollar

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by luna89, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. luna89

    luna89 New Member

    Hello,

    i found a collection of Chinese coins which unfortunately i don't have much background information on. I've started with this one to see if it was real or not but i can't find any info on it for the life of me. i have found some information online but the characters are completely different which is why I've had no luck.

    here are some picks: DSC01253.jpg DSC01255.jpg DSC01256.jpg

    thanks in advance.
     
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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    You have an example of the famous "Fat Man" 1 Yuan coin of the Republic of China, dated Republic Year 3 (1914), portraying Yuan Shi Kai, an infamous turncoat and unsuccessfully self-proclaimed emperor.

    It is possibly the most counterfeited Chinese coin of its era, sometimes struck, sometimes cast, and occasionally even struck in silver

    Genuine examples are quite rare. They weigh 26.4g and may have normal reeding or any of several other edge designs. Being of .890 silver, they are of course non-magnetic.
     
  4. luna89

    luna89 New Member

    that's really interesting.i'll definitely need to get something to get them weighed.thanks for the info!
     
  5. 01mikep

    01mikep Well-Known Member

    I have one around here somewhere as magnetic as a railroad tie.
     
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  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I know next to nothing about genuine Chinese coinage, but have encountered quite a number of counterfeits trying to be passed of as and/or with junk silver. Going only on the appearance of your coin, do not expect a positive outcome.
     
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  7. luna89

    luna89 New Member

    finally found a magnet and it completely stuck to it. At least i know now.
     
  8. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    This coin is slightly different from the normal fat man coin. If you note, there are two characters beside YSK. It reads "Gansu" which means the original coin would have been struck in Gansu province. Gansu Province YSK coins were struck in lower grade silver and were very unpopular back then because of poorer standard. However because of this reason, Gansu YSK coins are scarce and are in much higher demand. You are talking about four figure coin here - I don't see how you can be extremely lucky and find it in a junk market. (possible but you might as well try your luck in lottery)
     
  9. luna89

    luna89 New Member

    so does it have a chance of actually being real? I actually found them while doing community service helping out a clean up crew for house fires.they were throwing them away but they let me keep them instead.
     
  10. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    About as much chance as I have of walking on the moon without a space suit.
     
  11. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Probably you mean a railroad SPIKE...ain't never heerd of an iron tie.
     
  12. luna89

    luna89 New Member

    haha alright then : P
     
  13. Coincurious00

    Coincurious00 New Member

    If the coin is magnetic does that automatically mean it's a fake??? I have a coin that is EXTREMELY similar that is magnetic as well.
     
  14. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Unfortunately, if it is magnetic then it is definitely a fake. A genuine coin would be made of .890 silver and non magnetic.
     
  15. Coincurious00

    Coincurious00 New Member

    Even with the two additional symbols and lower grade silver? Everywhere I have read it says this coin contains less silver. Would a lower silver content cause it to be magnetic but still genuine?? Here are a few pictures any comments or observations would be greatly appreciated. I know nothing about coins and I just want to cover all my bases. :] image.jpg image.jpg
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I know next to nothing about genuine examples, but have seen more poor fakes than I care to remember. Unfortunately, and from all outward appearances, your example matches well to the aforementioned fakes, and this is without taking any other issues into consideration.
     
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