Hello community. I just recently started getting into ancient coin collecting, with having purchased a few coins dating late roman period. Now, I have just officially purchased my first medieval hammered of King Edward i. Since I am new to collecting ancients, and know little about the known medieval forgeries, I was hoping some of you can analyze the picture of my purchased coin, and let me know if you may spot something out of the ordinary which may make you believe it is a potential forgery. This coin was purchased on eBay, through a reputable dealer, non-the-less, it is a non-graded coin and just want to ensure that my first medieval purchase isn't anything but 100% legit! Any information would be entirely appreciated. Thanks! Description of Coin given: Edward i silver penny - Lincoln Mint - Class 3g
Looks good to me I recently acquired on of these Edward I Lincoln Pennies. Here is my measurements and description... Kingdom of England England, Lincoln Edward I Plantagenet r. AD 1272- 1307 AR penny 18 mm x 1.35 g, Lincoln, long cross type, class 3d. Obverse: +EDW R' ANGL' DNS HYB. Crowned bust facing. Reverse: CIVI/ TAS/ LIN/ COL separated by long cross, three pellets in each angle. Reference: North 1019; S 1390/1427. Very Fine, nice strike, toned. Provenance: ex. David L Tranbarger; ex Steven Damron, his tag included; ex Col. Ted Schmidt (tag included, purchased Al Boulanger, FPL 30, lot 190); ex. B. Yarbrough.
Thank you so much for all of your replies so far! Very helpful information and glad to see all of you believe this to be an authentic Edward i hammered coin! Extremely pleased!
Here's a retail website where quite a few hammered and milled English, Irish, and Scotch are pictured, for comparison. I know nothing about them, however. www.historyincoins.com
I'm not a specialist here but ask if there is a convention in showing the reverse orientation. Both examples shown here have Civitas at the top and Lincoln upside down at the bottom. I would have shown them right and left since the obverse legends start at the top and go clockwise. Is there a convention here or does random rule?
From what is in use for french medieval coinage (no reason for british rules to be different, for once...), I would start at 12 O' clock with CIVITAS going clockwise Q BTW : nice and interesting coins. I'm still waiting for my first early penny
Don't forget the old Japanese proverb -- "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail..."
I know this thread is really old, but in my looking around old threads I stumbled on this one. As a collector of Edward I pennies, this is a legit coin and correctly identified as class 3g. Minted between 1280 and 1281.
Noob... I stumbled upon this thread tonight and got a look at your coin that you showed everyone above. You indeed have a class 3 Edward I penny. However, it is not of class 3d but of class 3g minted 1280-1281. Whoever assigned the 3d classification clearly was not a specialist. And this oversight on their part, my friend, is greatly to your advantage. It has a crown very similar to that of 3d, but the elephant in the room is the formation of the "N" on the obverse and reverse. Do you notice that the line connecting the two vertical lines of the N appears to have a smushed dot or pellet? What you have is a very rare variation of class 3!! (and this rarity only occurs in class 3g, thus we know it is not a class 3d) Any Edward I collector, including myself, would LOVE to have it in their collection. Congratulations!
Unfortunately I am unsure if I should sit down or stand up, or take an Aspirin. I certainly appreciate all your hard work you have put forth on my coin. While I formulate a better response... this will have to suffice... TOUCHDOWN Noobs!!!!
The "N" look funny on a lot of Edward I pennies. There is 6 variations of the letter with the rarest being in the form of a Lombardic "N". You can see where the N is if you know how the legend is supposed to read. EDW R' ANGL' DNS hYB on obverse CIVI/TAS/LIN/COL' on reverse