Authenticity of my Edward i hammered coin!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Craig Z, May 11, 2015.

  1. Craig Z

    Craig Z Member

    Hello community. I just recently started getting into ancient coin collecting, with having purchased a few coins dating late roman period. Now, I have just officially purchased my first medieval hammered of King Edward i. Since I am new to collecting ancients, and know little about the known medieval forgeries, I was hoping some of you can analyze the picture of my purchased coin, and let me know if you may spot something out of the ordinary which may make you believe it is a potential forgery. This coin was purchased on eBay, through a reputable dealer, non-the-less, it is a non-graded coin and just want to ensure that my first medieval purchase isn't anything but 100% legit! Any information would be entirely appreciated. Thanks!

    Description of Coin given: Edward i silver penny - Lincoln Mint - Class 3g

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Looks good to me.:cool:
     
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I really have to dig mine up
     
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  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    it looks ok me tme craig, but this i'm no expert on these.
     
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  6. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    It looks okay to me.
    I have dug many metal detecting.
     
  7. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Looks good to me I recently acquired on of these Edward I Lincoln Pennies.

    Here is my measurements and description...

    Kingdom of England
    England, Lincoln
    Edward I Plantagenet r. AD 1272- 1307
    AR penny 18 mm x 1.35 g, Lincoln, long cross type, class 3d.
    Obverse: +EDW R' ANGL' DNS HYB. Crowned bust facing.
    Reverse: CIVI/ TAS/ LIN/ COL separated by long cross, three pellets in each angle. Reference: North 1019; S 1390/1427. Very Fine, nice strike, toned.
    Provenance: ex. David L Tranbarger; ex Steven Damron, his tag included; ex Col. Ted Schmidt (tag included, purchased Al Boulanger, FPL 30, lot 190); ex. B. Yarbrough.

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  8. Craig Z

    Craig Z Member

    Thank you so much for all of your replies so far! Very helpful information and glad to see all of you believe this to be an authentic Edward i hammered coin! Extremely pleased!
     
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  9. doug5353

    doug5353 Well-Known Member

    Here's a retail website where quite a few hammered and milled English, Irish, and Scotch are pictured, for comparison. I know nothing about them, however.

    www.historyincoins.com
     
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  10. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Looks OK. I'd grade it VG and not being clipped is a bonus.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'm not a specialist here but ask if there is a convention in showing the reverse orientation. Both examples shown here have Civitas at the top and Lincoln upside down at the bottom. I would have shown them right and left since the obverse legends start at the top and go clockwise. Is there a convention here or does random rule?
     
  12. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    From what is in use for french medieval coinage (no reason for british rules to be different, for once...:D), I would start at 12 O' clock with CIVITAS going clockwise

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    BTW : nice and interesting coins. I'm still waiting for my first early penny
     
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  13. doug5353

    doug5353 Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the old Japanese proverb -- "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail..."
     
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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  15. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    I know this thread is really old, but in my looking around old threads I stumbled on this one. As a collector of Edward I pennies, this is a legit coin and correctly identified as class 3g. Minted between 1280 and 1281.
     
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  16. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    Noob...

    I stumbled upon this thread tonight and got a look at your coin that you showed everyone above.

    You indeed have a class 3 Edward I penny. However, it is not of class 3d but of class 3g minted 1280-1281.

    Whoever assigned the 3d classification clearly was not a specialist. And this oversight on their part, my friend, is greatly to your advantage.

    It has a crown very similar to that of 3d, but the elephant in the room is the formation of the "N" on the obverse and reverse.

    Do you notice that the line connecting the two vertical lines of the N appears to have a smushed dot or pellet?

    What you have is a very rare variation of class 3!! (and this rarity only occurs in class 3g, thus we know it is not a class 3d)

    Any Edward I collector, including myself, would LOVE to have it in their collection. Congratulations!
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @Ancientnoob DUDE! You scored! TOUCHDOWN!!!
     
  18. doug5353

    doug5353 Well-Known Member

    You are good! I don't even see any N on the obverse or reverse.
     
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  19. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Unfortunately I am unsure if I should sit down or stand up, or take an Aspirin. I certainly appreciate all your hard work you have put forth on my coin. While I formulate a better response... this will have to suffice...

    TOUCHDOWN Noobs!!!!

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  20. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    @HammeredCoin glad your here, your knowledge is a great resource!
     
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  21. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    The "N" look funny on a lot of Edward I pennies. There is 6 variations of the letter with the rarest being in the form of a Lombardic "N". You can see where the N is if you know how the legend is supposed to read.

    EDW R' ANGL' DNS hYB on obverse

    CIVI/TAS/LIN/COL' on reverse
     
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