Australia 1938 Crown help ?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by mark240590, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    Ok so I won this crown which I was quite pleased with, given the weight is correct, the thickness is correct and it conducted cold from the ice cube test perfectly well, my problem is it seems to be smaller than the billed 38.5mm coming in at a lot neater to 38mm I've never heard of a fake having the same weight as the genuine article without being bigger or thicker, does anyone have any ideas ?
    This is the suspect. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1433675604.939594.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1433675614.055479.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1433675623.304613.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    First time I ever heard of this test.. explain if you may
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The weight looks good. Can you show us the edge? Maybe worn down a bit?
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  5. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Gloves?
     
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  7. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    Haven't any left ha
     
  8. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    Rare earth magnet slowly sliding off it will confirm Sterling silver content.
    Looks ok to me.
     
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  9. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    Nice coin. I got mine for 45 dollars several years ago.
     

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  10. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    That's what I was thinking Davey, I had a really strong magnet with a hook on it for years and it didn't stick, I'll have to buy an earth magnet !
     
  11. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    Here is a couple of better side shots & some pics through the loupe of the surfaces.
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  12. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    Sorry paddy, you hold the coin by its edges and run an ice cube into the centre of it if it's proper silver it'll very quickly go freezing cold since silver is a good conducter.
     
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  13. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Yes, and please stop holding it by the face!
     
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  14. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    I do what I have to. My pair of gloves I had before had to be used at work to help with my dermatitis. I'll have to get more !
     
  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    What are you using to measure the diameter? Anything other than a caliper will not be reliable when you are talking about tenths of a millimeter.
    The coin looks fine.
     
  16. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    Yeah, I know. I'm using a steel rule :O haha. Not ideal I know but I also gauged it against my other crowns
    This is my magnet.
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  17. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    You may be working off the wrong information.

    NCG world coin price guide lists the 1937 Australian crown at 37.9mm. I own the 1937, and it is, in fact, 37.9mm, so I trust this information.

    The same source lists the 1938 as exactly 38mm, so I think you're fine. (The George VI British crown is 38.61, so perhaps some sources mistakenly assign this dimension to other crowns of the empire during this period. Numista, for one, does this.)

    For what it's worth, your crown looks 100% genuine to me.
     
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  18. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    One more thing . . . as a long-time world collector, I've learned to check this kind of information across multiple sources. You'd be surprised how much spec data differs from one source to another.

    I've found the NGC world coin price guide to be consistently accurate. The only problem with them is that they don't list physical specs for every single coin in their database, so sometimes I have to rely on other sources.
     
  19. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    Thanks, the Victoria museum has one that claims 38mm too :)
     
  20. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I think it looks good.
     
  21. mark240590

    mark240590 Rule Britannia !

    Thanks, it really baffles me that they didn't mint using the imperial standard sizing.
     
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