[Ancients] How do I pronounce...

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  1. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    ...thetradrachm.

    Is it tet-ra-dram, tet-ra-drach-ma, or something else?

    Feel free to add other words, some of you like me may suffer from readers vocabulary.:D
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    tet-rə-dram

    ... ummm, I think it's kinda similar to saying, "anagram" ...

    Funny though, because when I read it, I pronounce it in my head as Tetra-drackem (kinda like it's a Klingon word?!!)
     
  4. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Vlaha, if you want to hear it spoken, Anoob did some YouTube spots, look them up..
     
  5. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    What are they titled, "Ancientnoob's ancient word pronunciation guide"?
     
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  6. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I've always thought it was Teh-tra-drawk-um. Not sure if it's right though...
     
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  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I say teh-tra-DROCK-uhm. Don't know if that is correct.
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I think TIF and VK say it nearly alike and is how I say it.

    Note to TIF and VK: If I say it the same way, it's probably wrong.
     
  10. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    While you experienced guys are at it, how would you pronounce "Elagabalus" and "drachm"?
     
  11. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    AncientNoob is "fistfullofdenars" on YouTube. Here is a link to one of his many videos:
     
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    No idea if I'm right or wrong, but I say Eh-luh-GA-buh-lus, with GA pronounced like the second syllable of 'exactly'.

    Drachm: DRAH-kum.
     
  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I was pronouncing the "ch" as well, but I got corrected by Bill (Ardatirion). I guess the convention is say dram, as in "wee dram."

    Still, would it be so hard to try and pronounce words from other languages properly? The one that annoys me is Trajan, when people pronounce it Tray-jun. That's not even close to the original Latin.

    Maybe it's my ancient parochial upbringing - we were taught to say the prayers of the Roman Catholic Ordinary in properly-pronounced Latin, where the vowels are pure as opposed to being diphthongs. Latin is 99.9% phonetic - you only pronounce diphthongs if they're written out as such.

    So if I ever meet any of you folks in person, and I hope I do, and we have a conversation about Trajan, I'm going to call him Trah-ee-ah-noos, and you'll just have to get over it. :)
     
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  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Its a great post. This is one of the greatest problems I have in ancient coins is pronunciation. You can read about a word, write about it, but all along be mispronouncing it because you are not around anyone TALKING about it. I cannot tell you how many times I have been mispronouncing words for years. As an example, for about 4 years I pronounced drachm as drachma, since that is what they are called in Greece today, and is the only way I had heard the word.

    It really does make you feel like an idiot when you mispronounce these words. :(
     
  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => yoos got dat rite!!
     
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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It's ok if ya'll mispronounce until someone corrects you publicly. I was mispronouncing Elagabulus until the Orlando FUN Show last year when I was corrected in front of other customers. Oh well.....
     
  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    sometimes i'll look stuff up on youtube so i can hear people say the word....assume they aren't just as much in the dark as i am. at the last coin show i was talking to a guy about about my giant ptolemy zeus/eagle coin....and he looked at me funny. i said "Toe La Me" and he replied that he pronounced it different...i can't remember exactly how he said it. we were also discussing ancient fakes, and i was affaid to attempt fourress.....say "4" then "E" then make it plural? "four Ez"
     
  18. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    sorry for yet another double post, since i did...

    how about "E Leg uh Ball us"
     
  19. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    A silent CH on tetradrachm is standard for English speakers. I'm sure an authentic Greek pronunciation is closer to this: http://translate.google.com/#el/en/τετράδραχμο (click the little speaker button in the bottom right corner of the translation box). Of course, if you say it like that, no one will have a clue what you are talking about.

    Latin pronunciation is much more straightforward and one place where my three years of Latin come in handy.
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Latin Pronunciation
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Latin Plurals

    My pet peeve is sesterce, that gross anglicization. The proper Latin plural is "sestertii." Pronoucned seys-TER-te-e.
     
  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    No kidding, it's teh-trah-dram?! Not sure I can break the drah-kum habit.
     
  21. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    It's probably a good habit. I just got tired of having to say it twice at coin shows.
     
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