2022P Maya Angelou quarter DDR with knarley die chip marker

2022P Maya Angelou quarter DDR with knarley die chip marker at Washington's mouth.

I found this quarter in my change over the weekend. Kind of surprised to see any new coin for the year. Don't usually see them until April or later.

There looks to be an extra hoop to the SW of the primary one.

Thanks for looking and sharing any thoughts.

 

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I don't think I would call that a DDR. being that there is die deterioration present. The die chips, I wouldn't call that an extra earing. Keep your eyes out for other examples.

 

Not sure how that would be a 2nd earring loop since the dies are single squeezed. Maybe a scrape on the master die or something?

I like that die chip on George's mouth. Someone should tell him he's got something there and could use a napkin...

 

Thanks, P&G.

There is definitely die deterioration on the coin. The large die chips and oval die crack are an indication of older dies. Die deterioration gets more pronounced the closer the device is to the periphery of a coin. ("Poor mans doubled die" is a good example of die deterioration.) But the extra curve below her ear is not die deterioration or a die crack.

Modern minting (single squeeze) methods tend to make die doubling show up more towards the center of the dies, which is where this is located.

I wasn't able to capture it but the extra hoop almost touches the primary hoop at about 9:00.

 

Thanks FF.

I admire your knowledge and know you do a lot of roll hunting that has produced some great varieties over the years but there are many known DDO's and DDR's created with the single squeeze method.
Variety Vista, Copper Coins, and Doubled Die all have some nice examples on their sites.

Some of the modern ones can be pretty significant. The 2009 Duke Ellington quarters come to mind.
Another one I'm kind of fond of, but it's not nearly as strong as the Duke Ellington quarters, is the 2017 P DDO-001 Lincoln cent.

 

If the details are sharper than the one you posted, please get us better photos.
As the dies deteriorate die gouges happen, and secondary devices may appear.
Your coin is starting to remind me of three 04' examples. The high leaf and the low leaf Wisconsin Quarter, also this one the 04D doubled ear Rosevelt.

These three are considered die gouges, not Doubled Dies.

 

There's this, I don't know how big it really gets yet before the die was retired or if it's more than 1 die involved.
not my pictures, it's a conglomeration.

also the very early die crack that starts it all is here.

this one I think has a burr strike through on the nose, but it's an earlier die state than yours which I think is a bit later than the extreme picture since it has the new chip on the nose bridge I haven't seen before. A lot can happen to a die that far into the die state. the earring? I don't know, a die dent or deep die scratch maybe? hard to say, it's pretty far off from the earring to be doubling of that I think.
Really wondering if the mouth flaw affects more than one obverse die and might be more than just a few, that mouth corner looks pretty deep and maybe prone to cracking and chipping. I think the die chip that might get to an interior die break, might be the gem out of this progression.

I can see it now on ebay, "Herpes Washington error!"

 

Yeah I've seen the Duke Ellington, I guess this could be somewhat like that.
I just haven't seen many, Duke Ellington being the exception, that had the design doubled and actually away from the part in question...if that makes any sense...I'm super sleep deprived today haha.
Mostly what I've seen with single-squeeze is the elongation? of the design elements. Again, if that makes any sense lol.

 

I was thinking "RABIES" for the image you posted...

 

Finding a new (2022) coin in circulation is amazing to me, as we are just now switching over from wampum here in Montana.

 

Respectfully I have to diagree with this on the Shield Cents. Most of the doubling on Shield Cents occurs at "Liberty", the date and reverse designers initials which are all on the outside, or thereabouts periphery. What you say was mostly true prior to that. The 2009 Cents were a good example as well as 1998-2006 where most of the doubling showed up in large numbers. On the dimes and nickels there is doubling towards the centers. I'm really not sure why this difference is and would require some research on the subject.

 

yes shield cents, from what I've seen is on fattening of Liberty or date, or reverse and usually the left hand side initials and mostly "fattened" is how I'd describe it as I see it.

I don't know if that is or isn't a doubled die on this thread, it's seems out of place by a millimeter or two from where I'd expect it to be..... I'm no expert though, it should go to Wexler or someone to make the call.

It's a later die stage for sure based on my die chip growth chart hahahaha, I think it really could be any one of a number of die events occurring over it's life.

 

I agree that some of the modern doubling isn't confined to just the center or very dramatic.

Doubled ears on Washington quarters & shield cents, doorway headers on Jefferson nickels, and extra leaves on the Roosevelt dimes are the main source of DDR varieties.
A lot (most) of the DDR's are towards the center of the design for most of the modern denominations.


Here is an excerpt from John Wexlers doubleddie.com under "doubled Dies"
Link: http://doubleddie.com/58222.html
(The following quote is about 1/3 of the way down the page in the link above. It is just below the image of the "hubbing press operator" in the "Single-Squeeze Hubbing Era" section.)

".... On October 1, 2009 I had the privilege of having a telephone conversation with George Shue, Senior Advisor in Manufacturing at the U.S. Mint. During this conversation the 2009-D Washington D.C. quarter with a major doubled die reverse came up. Mr. Shue noted that the Mint was aware of this doubled die error and how it occurred. This particular doubled die resulted when a hubbing press operator stopped one of the single-squeeze hubbing presses to realign the hub and die and then restarted the hubbing sequence. In the process a rotational misalignment of images resulted. Mr. Shue further noted that the Mint was able to reproduce the error in a test to see what caused the doubled image originally.

The conversation further revealed that the Mint was aware that even though it was contrary to policy, hubbing press operators were taking it upon themselves to sometimes stop the single-squeeze hubbing presses before the hubbing was completed to make adjustments, and then restarting the press to complete the hubbing. To prevent doubled dies like the major variety seen on the 2009-D Washington D.C. quarter from happening again, the Mint has installed “locks” on the hubbing presses. Now if a hubbing press operator stops the press before the hubbing is completed, they will be unable to restart the press until a supervisor comes to inspect everything to make sure that things are reset properly. The supervisor will then “unlock” the press so that the hubbing can be completed. So for now doubled dies continue to be produced despite Mint efforts to eliminate the die variety."

If I get motivated and they start attributing varieties again I'll probably send this in for clarification. If that happens I'll share the results no matter how it turns out.

Thanks for all the comments and input. I truly enjoy the discussions and learning more.